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Re: [Digital BW] Upgrading question(s)

2003-06-05 by Ken Carney

Thanks much, Paul, that seems excellent advice.  I'm very pleased with the
results from the VM-S set, and definitely not looking for new ways to spend
money.  It seems that years back I refilled some 1270 cartridges with MIS
ink, but the results weren't then acceptable.  As I recall, the procedure
wasn't too time consuming.  This way I could order virgin Epson chipped
cartridges, as you note fill them once then toss them.  The ability to
change inksets back and forth sounds great.  It sounds like a way to address
clogging issues from a gap in printing times, and still have a true b&w
inkset(s).  I hope.  RIP or not, I wasn't looking forward to again trying to
deal with issues of printing with color inks.  I'll chunk the CIS and go
this direction first.

Regards,

  --Ken Carney
    www.kencarney.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 9:47 AM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Upgrading question(s)


> Ken,
>
> >... Epson 1270 ... VM-S inkset, since sometimes I like a warmer print ...
> > However, clogging has become a major issue ...   CIS problems ...
>
> One of the main reasons MIS switched to the Eboni black is that it is not
a
> co-solvent black like the vm-k.  The co-solvents and CISs clogged a lot
for
> people who did not use them regularly.
>
> >... I'm probably not a candidate for a CIS
>
> I agree.  I don't use them either, but a big part of that is that I like
to
> switch inks.  With a UC or MIS Ultra Tone ("UT") inkset that can print on
RC
> papers, you might find you'll want to try those papers with a photo black.
> Switching black carts on a desktop printer is easy.
>
> > and I'm a few printer generations behind also.
>
> The 1270 with a quad inkset will still match the best there is.  If you
have
> a good unit that does not band, it is worth keeping.
>
> >My main interest is b&w, usually neutral,
> >though I do like some toning - I have a "platinum" duotone that is really
> >nice.  I don't print that large, so a 13x19 printer is fine for  me.
>
> Before you spend a lot of money, why not try the Ultra Tone in some carts.
> The warm end of the range is considerably warmer than the MIS VM inkset,
> although not as dark as the vm-s will go.  I'm replacing the vm-s sepias
in
> my show with UT warm prints because the lightfastness of the UT warm is
the
> best there is (pure carbon), and it is warm enough to give that platinum
> look.
>
> >I'm thinking that a 2200 with a RIP may be the way to go ...
>
> You'll have dots in the highlights.  The 2200 output I've seen cannot
match
> your current 1270 vm-s output.
>
> >... I don't want to compromise on quality,
>
> Then consider saving the money on the 2200 and RIP.
>
> > but I really don't want to waste time purging cartridges ...
>
> Why not use new virgin carts and fill your own.  I never re-use carts due
to
> the foam issues.  With the 1270 and UT inks that should work very well and
> be reasonably easy.
>
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com
>
>
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