Hi Nick, I'm glad you're having a good time around here, this place is really a gold mine... Two hours of work from scan to final image ain't bad (especially if spotting is included), but what I'd like to know is how you manage dodge/burn *evenly* large areas like skies. Maybe using a pen and tablet rather than a mouse helps? BTW, what are your brush size and exposure settings with the tool? Thanks in advance, Alessandro -----Original Message----- From: nick90290 [mailto:NickBrandt@...] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 17:34 To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] levels and grain Hi Steve, Allesandro Reading all these postings over the last few days on methods of grading that do or don't avoid grain has been fascinating and quite a learning experience for me. I wish I'd known about this forum a long time ago - I could have saved myself a lot of aggravation. Education is enlightenment :). Eccentric in the extreme as it is to use dodge and burn right the way through to create the majority of my contrast to minimise grain, I've done it recently when I was starting over on the images I've already graded - images that were overly grainy through my dumb over-use of levels layers. So I knew exactly how I wanted them to look going in. It's meant - using largely dodge and burn, and minimal use of Curves on selected parts of the image - that I've regraded an image from original scan to completion in less than two hours, often just an hour. On the rare occasion I've overdone it in one area of the image, I just layer in that part from the original and work on it again, so the use of dodge and burn has not had a terrible finality for me. Also, having started as a painter years ago, I love the feel of using my Wacom pen and tablet with dodge and burn - I feel like I'm painting again! (I could never use the mouse - no fun at all). However, for future new photos, I'm going to use Curves layers with the History brush much more. Having said that, however, after experimenting with all the different methods discussed over the last couple of days, I still found that the grain was minimised the most when doing it my eccentric way, avoiding cranking up contrast through Levels/Curves altogether. However, I do acknowledge that it's kind of impractical - to say the least - to be painting the contrast into every bloody blade of grass! Nick . Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=245454.3115308.4434529.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=17050191 82:HM/A=1457554/R=0/SIG=11c6fnta2/*http://ipunda.com/clk/beibunmaisuiyuiwabe i> <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=245454.3115308.4434529.1261774/D=egroupmai l/S=:HM/A=1457554/rand=603998787> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint> If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - Include your full name with your message. - Include the address of your website, if you have one. - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames - Complete your Yahoo profile. - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: [Digital BW] levels and grain
2003-06-10 by Alessandro Pardi
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