Digital BW, The Print

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Robert Morrison <
rmorrison@p...> wrote:
> Well if Jerry Olson was still with us he would suggest switching to
the  
> Gen4 Black from media street.  It is a dye/pigment hybrid and jerry
 
> used it with the VM ink set in place of standard MIS black.   
> Inkjetmall's Piezotone Black Black might also be worth considering.
  
> Both of these will give you better blacks at the expense of
longevity  
> (because of the dye).  Another option would be switching to the  
> Ultratones with Photo black and printing on gloss or luster finish  
> papers.  The blacks are much more intense using these options.
> 
> Robert
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 09:30 AM, baduerr wrote:
> 
> > I have been using MIS's original VM inks on a 1160 and 99% of the
> > time I use the neutral curve.  The resulting prints are nice but
> > seems to lack the drama that I was able to achieve in the wet
> > darkroom.  I am wondering if another inkset would give the result
> > that I am looking for, namely deep netural blacks and punch (what
> > ever that means).
> >
> > I'm considering MIS's utra-tones, FS-N, or one of Cone's inksets.
 I
> > don't need the tone options of the utra-tones but am more
intrested
> > in a neutral to cool inkset.  Also, I don't want to go through the
> > expense of purchasing special printer drives just to find out
later
> > that I don't like the result.  Lately, I have been using QuadTone
> > Rip 2.0 with very good result.
> >
> > Could I use QuadTone Rip with the Cone inks?
> >
> > I guess my basic question is:
> >
> > "Ignoring the issues of print drivers,long term print fading, or
the
> > need to vary tone, which inkset will produce deep neutral, or
> > slighlty cool, blacks (on EAM)."
> >
> > I know that a lot of you have already faced the inkset issue so I
> > would like tap into your experiences and knowledge.
> >
> > Thanks, Brad
> >

Robert,

The "standard" MIS black has recently been replaced by Eboni (for both 
FS and VM) which is claimed to be a deeper black.  Does your comment 
apply to the older MIS black or to Eboni?

Harry