Digital BW, The Print

The 2200 is the best piece of hardware...but the the hilights using the  
OEM ink set is much "grainer" than the 1280 and 1160, but this is  
purely the result of using the light black ink for the hilights.  When  
the empty carts are available for the 2200 and you can substitute the  
Ultratone light gray ink...the 2200 will give the best prints by  
far...and much faster than the 1280...but you will need to use Ink Jet  
Control to drive it.

Robert


On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 10:37 PM, Jack M Kucy wrote:

> It looks like this thread contains the answer to my former question:
> 1280 or 220 for BW.
> I am buying 1280 (second - first I use for color),  load the quad inks,
> chose proper software and... go.
> And now lame question.  The printer comes with color cartridges (not
> loaded).  Should I try it with the color inks to check if it works  
> fine,
> use the cleaning cartridge and put in the quad inks - or it's better  
> not
> to dirty the printer with the color inks, but go directly to quads?
> Thanks in advance,
> Jack
>
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> John/Julie Gittins wrote:
>
>> Shilesh,
>> The conclusion you note regarding a 2200 vs 1160/1280 comparison
>> puzzles me. When
>> I've matched up prints from my 2200 vs my 1160, using the Epson driver
>> on each, I've found
>> the 2200 to be smoother and less dotty. If the Technical Print
>> Exchange's comparison wasn't
>> based on 2200 prints made with the Epson driver (you mention "a number
>> of different RIPs"
>> were used), then it's possible that that comparison underestimated the
>> 2200's mechanical
>> capabilities, since the RIPs introduce a set of "unnatural"
>> characteristics for the 2200 to
>> deal with. Could the fact that the 1160 and 1280 can use quad-black
>> inksets  (vs. the 2200's
>> being limited to date to non-quad inksets) have been the real source
>> of the difference in print
>> quality (as opposed to machinery shortcomings in the 2200)?
>> John
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Shilesh Jani
>>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>>   Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 6:01 PM
>>   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Off-center prints on Epson 1200
>>
>>
>>   Bob,
>>
>>   I agree with Martin.  The 1280 is a good choice.   I recently
>>   participated in a Technical Print Exchange.  Comparing the 1260 and
>>   1280, the prints were very similar in ramp smoothness and dottiness.
>>   Both printers were  A LOT less dotty than the newer 2200 printer
>>   using a number of different RIPs.  So, unless you find a good 1260,
>>   you can confidently go with the 1280.
>>
>>   Good luck and regards.
>>
>>   Shilesh
>>
>>   --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Wesley"
>>   <mwesley250@e...> wrote:
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "BOB KRAMER" <bobkramer@c...>
>>> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 7:37 AM
>>> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Off-center prints on Epson 1200
>>>
>>>
>>>> Martin,
>>>>
>>>> Why do you prefer the 1280 to an 1160 printer?  I've been
>>   thinking about
>>>> hunting down another 1160 just to have a backup to mine, but
>>   would be
>>>> interested in hearing about any advantages to changing over to
>>   the 1280.
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> It is simply the issue of availability. I don't see any quality
>>   differences
>>> although in theory the extra nozzles should help. I went from a
>>   1200 to a
>>> 1280 which was a big improvement due to all the clogging and banding
>>> problems on the 1200.
>>>
>>> At this point it just seems better to get a brand new 1280 rather
>>   than
>>> hassle with a used 1160 or trying to importing one and doing the
>>   power
>>> conversion.
>>>
>>> Software is also something to consider. Some of the new programs
>>   may not
>>> support the older printers.
>>>
>>> Martin
>>
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