Digital BW, The Print

on 6/27/2003 12:20 AM, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com at
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 13:00:04 -0700
> From: "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...>
> Subject: RE: Re: UltraTones and glossy paper
> 
> Bruce,
> 
>> ...  I'd like to spray for glossy and print for
>> matte with one inkset if possible.
> 
> Someday we'll have a true, pure-pigment, universal black, but it's not here
> yet.
> 
> I sprayed some Ultra Tone RC print test strips using Eboni/matte black. I
> used Epson Premium Luster and Epson Glossy Photo Paper.  I did what I'd
> consider 3 light sprays, with a little drying with a hair drier between
> them - all very quickly.
> 
> The Photo Paper print looks fairly good and has a dmax of 1.92 after the
> spray.  The 100% black patch is not as smooth as the Photo K version, but
> it's not bad.  The difference in finish is only detectable when one looks at
> a reflection off the surface.  The black patch does not rub off (at least
> easily), and finger prints do not show.  So, I'd say this makes a fairly
> good and cheap glossy print.  It's not perfect.  In the reflections I can
> also detect pizza wheel marks -- typical of glossy surfaces.  Also, of
> course, spraying is a bit of a hassle.
> 
> The Premium Luster is not as good.  The dmax is only 1.75, less than the 95%
> density patch, so it is "solarized."  The black also has a more distinctly
> different surface.  The good news is the there are no pizza wheel marks.  It
> may be that a really heavy spray would do the trick, but it's more that I
> want to do.
> 
> It looks to me like people should decide what paper they want and then see
> what ink and/or spray techniques will do the trick.  Different RC papers
> seem to react differently to both the inks and sprays.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com


Thanks Paul for the experiment!

I'd like to go for the FS inkset, but without the "ebony" black ink then.

Any suggestions?

Should I use Generations Black with the FS greys? It works quite well with
glossy papers and spraying.

The Ultratone photo black, and forget about matte printing?


Any other ideas?
 
-Bruce

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