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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Getting started -- Cone or MIS? (LONG)

2001-10-01 by sdmey4@aol.com

Terry, Its funny, the "tone" people get from messages! I know I had no 
intention implying unprofessionals had less taste or standards in quality.
I'am myself am not a professional Photographer! I do not earn my living from 
photography! I'am however fourtunate enough to have a large body of work
That has been selling very well for 3 years. I've sold almost 75k in prints 
those 3 years(spent it all) Its not the big leagues but an accomplishment 
thats a milestone in my life
after being a 30year photo enthusiast. One thing I've learned, is that 
professional photographers those that make a living from there work, are a 
step above the rest of us.
Because of Tyler I've gotten a glimpse of the life of a commercial 
photographer and the enormous overhead and obsticles they face. I have a new 
found respect for Pro's, and because of it I've raised the bar on my own work 
much higher. If your not a pro, hang around and see the work of as many of 
them as you can. Its real depressing sometimes, but inspiration is right 
around the corner.
I think I'am the only one using Standard MIS hextones on the 7000 I'am not 
using the VM inks. Not interested! I can vary my tone enough with just paper 
changes.
I got into this 7000 about 3 months before I was ready(fell into a good 
deal)I had every intention of buying piezo pro and probably still will! I Can 
afford it, my business hat said put a few hundred into MIS and see what you 
get before spending 3k on piezo pro!I I have 2 3000's to do my work while I 
FOOL with the 7000. 
Problems, well, there ink kind of mottles in the dark tones especiallly on 
Sumerset enhanced! I like this paper and I like warm! Warm sells!  It Mottled 
3 years ago and it still does
but not as bad. I'am using the FS black. Tyler has written curves for me and 
he can fix the mottle to as good as its gonna get.
The other thing that bothers me about this ink! I have several  3 year old 
MIS quadtone ink prints on a variety of papers! Some don't look so good, some 
look horrible.They where beutiful when first printed. This bothers me more 
than anything, Now I can only hope the coatings are better, I do think the 
inks are better now even though MIS says they have not changed them. The 
original quad set turned redddish Pink. And much more to choose from in the 
paper department. On summerset E I prefer a reddish brown vs, the Piezo 
golden brown. 
I'am trying MIS again to to see the tone with new papers! Its really making 
my life difficult going back and forth between two inksets, varible tone 
would drive me nuts and I would never get a complete body of workl done that 
had a consistant look to it.Vaible would be fun! but I don't thinkI could 
produce !
I'am putting 8 MIS prints in an exhibit comming up, along with some of my 
silver and 2 piezos. The Silver and the MIS prints were too much work :) I 
got a day job remember?
The MIS prints would have never made it to exhibit without Tylers curve work: 
) 
Keep in mind, the piezo list has its clogger posts and we have alot of curves 
need work posts here! 
I really hope there will be home light jet printers next year!
Steve M.

 



In a message dated 09/30/2001 10:12:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
terryr1028@... writes:


> Steve,
> 
> See Martins post that precedes this one. That is what surprised me, 
> more the tone of it than anything else, you also go that way in your 
> post as well. In other words, if we aren't professional photographers 
> and haven't spent a million dollars and years of our time in our 
> quest, then our tastes are insignificant and we wouldn't know quality 
> when we saw it? Please remember, us "unprofessionals" are closer to 
> the core audience that the professionals are trying to sell to. 
> 
> You say the MIS inks have problems, outside of the lack of curves at 
> this point, what specifically do you see as a problem? Not trying to 
> poke or anything, just curious.
> 
> Also curious as to why you went to the MIS VM if you were content 
> with the Piezo.
> 
> Can't really disagree with your statements based upon your 
> experiences, after all they are your experiences.
> 
> 




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