Digital BW, The Print

Tim,
Thanks much for the tip and link...I'll give it another go, guess I'm 
spoiled by the fine results of the mis quad inks/EAM combo, and 
expected the same levels of detail and print quality. So maybe it's 
not a "waste" of money after all, but an "investment in the learning 
curve" :)
 
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Tim Atherton 
<timatherton@t...> wrote:
> uncoated somerset velvet is one of the earliest watercolour papers 
tried out
> for quadtones... it's still a decent paper, if a bit soft (lack of 
coating).
> And was a favourite of Giclee printers
> 
> You would probably have to hunt way back in the archives of this, 
or the old
> Epson leben list to find stuff
> 
> "Somerset Velvet (250gr)
> This paper is the most popular sheet in the Iris Giclee industry 
for good
> reason. It has an amazing whiteness that it's competition and 
detractors
> claim is made from optical brighteners But the truth is that it 
doesn't use
> optical brighteners and is more stable than Arches Watercolor in 
terms of
> whiteness. How do we know? Jon Cone helped develop this sheet with 
Michael
> Ginsburg of Legion Paper in the early 90s. The longevity of this 
sheet is
> well tested and does not adversely effect dye or pigment inkjet 
inks.
> Mould-made in the UK of 100% rag. Neutral pH. The color gamut of 
this paper
> is not as good as coated papers such as the Enhanced Velvet. The 
results are
> soft and are liked by many fine art printers."
> 
> etc - as I recall you ahve to play with everything up a fair bit - 
colour,
> saturation, contrast etc.
> 
> see
> 
> http://www.inkjetart.com/watercolor_printing.html
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: markroth61 [mailto:mark80905@h...]
> > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 10:43 PM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Do not buy this paper...
> >
> >
> > This is the claim MIS makes on its web site about Somerset Velvet
> > uncoated paper:
> >
> > "This is the paper our prestigious testing group has concluded is 
the
> > very best for making fine art Quadtone prints on a 4 color 
printer."
> >
> > I believed it, ordered it, and now am stuck with it. This paper 
gives
> > flat results on the used 1160 I just bought (w/mis vm inks),
> > regardless of tweaks (EAM works beautifully however). It does take
> > colored pastels OK though, so now I will be spending hours hand
> > coloring...(maybe good for the eyes to give them a rest). Just 
wanted
> > to warn anyone who might be thinking of throwing any money at this
> > claim/paper with hopeful results. (If I'm wrong, and there is a
> > fix/tweak/curve someone has come up with for an 1160 to back up 
the
> > above claim, please do tell. (Someone on this list said in an 
archive
> > the paper was "terrible". Wish I had done a deep search on this 
list
> > before wasting 40 bucks...will next time.) Mark R.
> >
> >
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