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Re: Image Print / 2200 vs 1280 / plug in

2003-07-27 by Tyler Boley

Well, less ink would mean lighter, which would mean
no-longer-accurate. I think the effect the poster meant was the
impression that more widely spaced darker ink (resulting in the same
density compared to piezo with more dots of lighter ink) somehow was
more luminous because more paper white was visible. 
Tyler

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh Jani"
<shilesh.jani@s...> wrote:
> Ron,
> 
> Another thought:  Apparently the Piezo plug-in dumps a lot of ink on
> the paper across the entire grayscale spectrum.  Perhaps it might be
> better if highlights are printed with less ink.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Shilesh
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "harrisimages"
> <harris@s...> wrote:
> > Hi Shilesh,
> > 
> > Thanks for your observations and for suggesting alternative methods 
> > of printing PiezoTones on the 1280.  The old driver is very slow, as 
> > you say, 16 minutes for a small print as compared to 6 minutes on 
> > the 2200 with ImagePrint.
> > 
> > I am very happy with B&W prints made using ImagePrint on the 2200. 
> > Fast and easy to use.  Many say the prints are neutral.  However, at 
> > 50,50 tinting they seem slightly warm to me, but not as warm as 
> > PiezoTone Selinium Tone.  I like both renditions. However, for more 
> > tonal variation I look to PiezoTones.  I would imagine that the new 
> > PiezoTone system will make them easier to use and give better 
> > results, except, perhaps for customized approaches like yours.
> > 
> > Ron
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh Jani" 
> > <shilesh.jani@s...> wrote:
> > > Ron,
> > > 
> > > I agree with you!  This special luminous quality is restricted to 
> > > some images and under specific light condition.  I see this also 
> > in 
> > > BO printing.  Use of pigmented grays in highlight areas impose the 
> > > quality of inks, rather than allowing the paper to assert itself.  
> > A 
> > > long time ago - 1.5 years;-) I was using dye based inks for b/w 
> > > printing.  And sure enough, the paper character was more readily 
> > > apparent in the highlights.  Too bad about color crossover and 
> > fade 
> > > of color dyes.  I am looking forward to the day when we get a dye 
> > > based grayscale inkset, even one which has a limited lightfastness 
> > of 
> > > 20 years.  But that is just me.
> > > 
> > > On the microbanding front:  It should be noted that the 
> > Piezography 
> > > plug-in is not the only way to go with the 1280.  One can use the 
> > > Epson driver along with the MIS FS (and FS-N) inks 
> > designated "E".  
> > > Alternatively, you can use the regular FS (and FS-N) inks provided 
> > > you switch the inks around as follows:  cyan=magenta=dark, 
> > > lightcyan=lightmagenta=middle, yellow=light.  A moderate curves 
> > > adjustment layer (call it profile) linearizes the response 
> > nicely.  
> > > No plug-in, no banding.  Also in fairness, I have seen a lot of 
> > > prints made with the Piezo plug-in and PT inks with no evidence of 
> > > banding.  I personally don't use the plug-in because I like the 
> > > ability to custom mix my own inks, and the plug-in (mis)uses too 
> > much 
> > > ink, and it is slooooooooooooow!
> > > 
> > > Regards.
> > > 
> > > Shilesh

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