Found this link yesterday of anyone if anyone is interested http://www.livick.com/method/inkjet/pg1.htm Not into coating myself but thought you lot might like a read Gareth --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Robert Morrison <rmorrison@p...> wrote: > I haven't tested the hydrocote coated prints, but when I was testing a > variety of of different acrylic based coatings with piezo inks I found > that under dry south window testing the coating improved the fade by up > to 100%...so this is the opposite of Paul's results with the Hydrocote. > Honestly I'm still a bit skeptical of the aliphatic polyurethanes > being as good for paper coating as the acrylics...but this is not based > on actual comparative testing...just my knowledge of the respective > chemistries. > > Robert > > > On Saturday, August 9, 2003, at 06:35 PM, Paul Roark wrote: > > > jeffmoore17@c... wrote: > > > >> 1) Has anyone done any testing on the issue of whether or not coating > >> with a product such as Hydrocote Polyshield affects the archival > >> properties of Piezography carbon prints? > > > > I've fade-tested coated v. non-coated prints. I assume the MIS and > > Piezo > > inks are about the same. In general, the coated blacks faded a bit > > faster, > > although I think that could well be due to the higher dmax raising the > > temperature (by absorbing more light). The black ink in the test was > > the > > MIS VM-K (probably the same as PiezoBW K). The 50% patches were > > generally > > the same in terms of their fade rates. > > > > There was one other situation that seemed to accelerate the coated > > print > > fading. I tested one group under very high humidity conditions. (The > > test > > light, etc. were right over a tray of water.) The coated print did > > fade > > faster. The uncoated prints faded at essentially the same rate as the > > low-humidity tests. I speculate that the difference could be that the > > hot > > light artificially dries the un-coated prints, whereas the coating > > traps the > > water around the pigments. > > > > In general, we've always been led to believe that high humidity > > accelerates > > fading, but this has never shown up in my tests except for the coated > > prints. One of the criticisms of accelerated testing is that it > > artificially dries the inks, with the result that the fade rate is > > reduced. > > > > So, I have 2 test results that seem to favor un-coated prints. I'm > > very > > suspicious that both are more artifacts of the testing than predictors > > of > > faster fading for PUR-coated prints. > > > >> 2) When coating Piezo prints with Hydrocote, after a good curing > >> period, can these prints be drymounted, i.e., Seal tissue and > >> drymount press? > > > > Yes, I've used Seal Colormount at 180 degrees f. Be sure to use fresh > > release paper and wait the full 7-day curing period. Also, with > > trimming > > the prints, a rotary trimmer might be a good idea. I've noticed a bit > > of > > edge roughness when trimming with a straight razor knife. > > > > As an aside, one of the PUR experts told me that heat accelerates the > > cross-linking and curing. Heating the PUR soon after application might > > actually make for stronger coating -- bringing the strength/extent of > > cross-lining of the single-solution, water-borne products close to the > > industrial products. (The adhesion of a water-borne PUR will not, > > however, > > match the solvent-based products.) This heating information suggests > > that > > the use of a hair-drier might not only speed the drying and curing, > > but also > > result in a stronger coating. > > > > Paul > > http://www.PaulRoark.com > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls > > and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > > this same page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - Include your full name with your message. > > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > > keep them short. > > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject > > header. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames > > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the > > various resources on the homepage. > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] More Coating Questions - And some answers
2003-08-10 by garethlock4472
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