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Re: [Digital BW] Bronzing on Pure Black with UT on Glossy

2003-08-13 by garethlock4472

Thanks for the reply Paul.  Comments in paragraphs below.

> MIS claims that the Permajet RC paper is bronzing-free.  Perhaps 
that is
> just a relative judgment, however.  They are sending my some for 
testing.
> 

The best paper is the Permajet HiGlossy, with the Oyster a close 
second. I don;t have any Ilford Galerie paper to try at the moment, 
will source some tomorrow.

> >Oh and by the way I do like these UT inks, my only criticism is 
that
> >they are too warm.  Even the NC1 curve is 'brown' when placed next 
to
> >a black only print.
> 
> Is the warmth just in the shadow tones or throughout the print?

Throught the print.  It is quite apparent when I printed out a step 
wedge chart which went down to 1% in the 0-10% and 90-100% areas and 
5% for the rest.

> >I am using NCA in the driver so how do I adjust the tone on the 
print
> >without using the sliders in the driver?
> 

> Use a different curve.  There is a cool one.  

I have used the cool curve and found that it is a bit blue, is there 
anyway to get an in-between?  I know that when the PCM was enabled ie 
non-NCA you could move one of the sliders to add or reduce the 
relevant ink which biased the tone.  I presume the only way to do 
this is adjust the basic curve is PS?

>Also, although I'm aware of
> the warmth in the shadows of some RC papers, there is more capacity 
in the
> toner to cool the midtones.
>

It is applicable across both Matte and Glossy papers as I printed out 
the test charts on a variety of different papers and then compared 
them next to each other and to a profile colour images which had a 
dead neutral black and white image in the centre.
 
I have not seen any Piezo images so cannot see how the UT inks 
compare to the neutrality of Piezo.  Which as an aside if I buy the 
Piezo software (5.1.0) can I use the UT inks with it because I know 
someone who is selling their unused copy?

Thanks

Gareth

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