Digital BW, The Print

Premier is no longer using the name UltraSmooth Fine Art.  Their paper is n=
ow called 
PremierArt  "Hot Press" Fine Art.  They revised the pdf paper description f=
ile and 
removed all references to the UltraSmooth name and to Epson.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> The impression I got from Epson was that PremierArt UltraSmooth was (or w=
as
> the same as) Epson's UltraSmooth.  When I told the Epson Pro Media head t=
he
> roll size that is listed in the William Paul & Associates web page, he sa=
id
> that was not an Epson roll size. Also, the W. Paul site where the papers =
are
> listed does not use the UltraSmooth name.
> 
> Of course, if PremierArt has a source that is independent of Epson, it co=
uld
> be the same paper, but in different sizes.
> 
> I wonder who has the "UltraSmooth" trade mark.  I assumed it was Epson.  =
The
> way Royce Bair talks, it sounds like maybe PremierArt should not be using=

> that name.
> 
> Note also that PremierArt spray and the new Wilhelm test data.  I've thou=
ght
> that a spray that was matched to the paper coating might be able to seal =
the
> pigments better.  I'm hopeful that someone has really done a good
> engineering job here.
> 
> On the other hand, in the past, the claim has been made that InkJetArt
> Museum is essentially the same as UltraSmooth.  My tests of Museum indica=
te
> it has one of the worst-flaking surfaces out there, as opposed to
> UltraSmooth's virtually non-flaking surface.
> 
> Very confusing.  However, I do hope that there is an independent source f=
or
> UltraSmooth.  Competition never hurts.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com
> ________________________________________
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A. Andrew Gonzalez [mailto:a_andrew_gonzalez@y...]
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:50 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Ultrasmooth Fine Art paper
> 
> 
> 
> I thought the "PremierArt™ UltraSmooth Fine Art" and Epson's UltraSmooth =
ar=
> e the
> same paper?, as what seems to be indictated in Wilhem's test update
> http://www.wilhelm-research.com/ep9600%20print%20permanence.html#table
> (see note #6 on the bottom)
> 
> Take a look at the pdf on the Premier site:
> http://www.premierimagingproducts.com/media/index.html
> (looks like UtraSmooth sizes?)
> 
> From Royce Bair on the Epson Wide Format group:
> 
> 1. "A. Andrew Gonzalez" also wrote:
>  <<Interesting.....there's a mention of a "PremierArt UltraSmooth
>  Fine Art Paper" next to the UltraSmooth from Epson. I wonder if
>  they're similar or the same? Why mention the PremierArt
>  UltraSmooth Fine Art Paper if it's not in the above test?
>  No mention of the papers specs on the PremierArt site, only
>  that's it's now available.>>
> 
>  Mmmm.... Remember when Epson first introduced their Smooth
>  and Texture Fine Art papers, and mentioned that they were made
>  by Crane? And also Epson's own "Somerset Velvet" (similar to
>  Legion's Somerset Photo Enhanced). Need I say more? I'll just
>  say that InkjetART will be carrying BOTH the Epson UltraSmooth
>  Fine Art and the PremierArt paper (Henry W. made a slip here, it
>  will be called just "PremierArt", and not "PremierArt
>  UltraSmooth"). Our stocks of PremierArt should arrive within two
>  weeks (the 250 g/m2 and the 325 g/m2 -- 500 g/m2 are being
>  delayed).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
> <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > >Does anyone know if this is a re-branded version of the Epson
> > >Ultrasmooth Fine Art paper we have been waiting for?
> > >http://www.wmpaulstore.com/primpr.html
> >
> > There is a PremierArt name that is now attached to UltraSmooth.  Howeve=
r,=
> > the UltraSmooth paper has not been released yet.  Furthermore, the size=
s
> > that are apparently for sale at the above site are not Epson sizes.  So=
,
> > beware.  This is probably not the real thing.
> >
> > Epson Pro Media head says end of August is now the release date.
> >
> > Paul
> > http://www.PaulRoark.com