Antonis, Thanks for the report on the Moab Entrada paper. I'm just about out of my stock of Eclipse Satine so I've ordered some of the Entrada. Sounds like it will be a good replacement. Have you noticed any flaking problems with the Entrada? Carl On Saturday, August 23, 2003, at 07:04 PM, Antonis Ricos wrote: > Good news everyone!... <as the professor in Futurama would say> > > I just did some initial tests of the new Moab Entrada Fine Art paper > (300 gsm / > natural) on the 2200 and the results were very good indeed. With the > OEM > Ultratones, I was able to squeeze up to a good 1.68 dmax (Matte Black) > which > is very respectable and in line with other papers such as EAM and > PhotoRag. > This is the reading I got _the next day_ which means it can be > considered > "for real". > > The paper is coated on both sides and has the surface smoothness > almost of > a "hot press" sheet, but not quite as smooth. The feel of the sheet is > fairly stiff, > but still fed fine through the top of the 2200 - with some care. > Probably a good > candidate for feeding it from the back of the printer . Compared to > the 310 > German Etching (aka Orwell, etc) it feels much stiffer and the surface > a lot > "harder" without the soft "blotting paper" feel of the G.E. > > I chose the natural color version of this paper which fits warm > inksets just fine. > I used only the gray and black from the 2200, and the results were very > pleasing already. I imagine that the addition of a second gray (from > the > UltraTones) would just completely remove any hint of highlight dot - > which I > couldn't see in my samples anyway, since the ever so slight texture of > the > paper absorbs them. > > There is a slight difference in the front to back textures, but not > enough to be > noticeable once an image is printed. It's probably the result of > slightly different > felts etc during manufacture rather than an intentional 2-surface > option like the > Eclipse. > > > Of course the best news is that all this comes at an astounding 38-47% > lower > price than PhotoRag or Royal Plush (Orwell). > I compared a 25-sheet pack of 13x19 at mediastreet and inkjetgoodies: > PhotoRag 310 is $96 at inkjetgoodies; Royal Plush 310 is $82 at > mediastreet. > This compares to $51 for the Moab Entrada 300 ! I didn't even want to > see > what a double sided version of Photorag would run.... > > Considering that the Entrada is 100% cotton, acid free and that the > Natural > contains no optical brighteners, it makes it the equal of all the > other sheets we > have been using for fine art prints. It is only a matter of personal > preference > whether to go with the look and feel of this paper or pay Hahnemuhle > their > high prices. > > These observations are of course, the result of some very limited > tests. I will > have to try the paper at least with Piezotones and UltraTones to see > how it > holds up. Also, some real fade tests have to be done before we can > reach > final conclusions. For the moment, however, and for my own use, I will > find it > very hard to pay nearly double the price for the competing German > imports. > > I am about to upload the profile I made for this paper and the 2200 / > OEM / MK > (matte black) using IJC. Anyone on Mac OS 9 can download the free OPM > http://www.bowhaus.com/inkjetcontrol/ > and see for themselves what this paper looks like with these inks. I > am sure > the profile will work for the White version as well as the 190 gsm > flavors. Look > for it in the OPM section of our Files (accessible from the group home > page). > > Below is the contact for further info on the moab papers. The site > doesn't > mention the archival characteristics of these sheets, but the Moab > printed > price list does. > > http://inkjetgoodies.com/main/moab.htm > > So.... enjoy! <g> > > Antonis > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ---------------------~--> > Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark > Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & > Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 > http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/ucIolB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > ~-> > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls > and other resources as they are often being updated. 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Re: [Digital BW] Moab Entrada paper - first impressions
2003-08-24 by Carl Schofield
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