I've been printing with the my experimental Eboni-based quad and have found that with the Piezo driver I often get some unevenness in smooth tones -- like wide banding. With the Epson driver none of this is present. I don't know if it is my 1160, the old Piezo driver, or the inkset. My 1160 often didn't do very well with the Piezo driver, which is one reason I switched to the Epson driver long ago. (Since my target for the inkset is the Epson driver and vm-s, this is not an issue that concerns me now.) For the Epson driver, I have a curve that prints the "Eboni-NS" (my name) very well on the 1160. (The curve is cross-platform.) I have done enough with this for now. I'll have to see the fade tests before pursuing this approach further. (For now this is only for those who want to mix your own ink.) Paul http://www.PaulRoark.com _________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Paul Roark [mailto:paul.roark@...] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 4:20 PM To: DigitalB&WPrint Subject: [Digital BW] Eboni-Neutral/Selenium, Piezo-compatible inkset As I mentioned previously, I'm experimenting with Eboni-based inksets. The purposes include to see if I can make an even more lightfast inkset than the Ultra Tones (Eboni is remarkably stable and more neutral than the UT grays), to upgrade the vm-s inkset (which currently used FS-N as the gray ink), and to make available another alternative for the old Piezo driver. The interim formula I have for a Piezo-compatible inkset is as follows: The cyan position ink is 23.9% Eboni black, 4.8% MIS 7600 cyan, 6.5% MIS 7600 magenta, 64.8% MIS clear base. The magenta-position ink is 23.5% cyan dark gray, above, remainder clear base. The yellow-position ink is 45% magenta middle gray, above, remainder clear base. This ink is for matte paper, not RC. The Piezo driver on my 1160 prints the inks with the following densitometer readings: 25% patch: c=.32, m=.33, y=.32, visual=.32 50% patch: c=.61, m=.62, y=.61, v=.62 75% patch: c=.95, m=.96, y=.94, v=.95 So, the ink is quite neutral, going a bit cool in the shadows, and having a bit of a "selenium" bias to it. I matched the old PiezoBW ink densities with the above mix. Note that the PiezoTone sample test prints that have been sent to me indicate that ink is a bit more dense than the original PiezoBW ink. For the ink mixers out there, this might give you an interesting and rather inexpensive alternative to the current PT selenium. I have no idea if MIS is interested in mixing this ink. I'll, of course, send the formula to them also. I will be fade testing various alternatives to this formula -- basically different color pigments. Based on past experience, I expect the MIS 7600 color pigs used here to win that contest, but since I have not tested this combination before, the results could be different. Hope this is useful. Paul http://www.PaulRoark.com Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - Include your full name with your message. - Include the address of your website, if you have one. - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames - Complete your Yahoo profile. - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Curve for Eboni-NS (Neutral/Selenium)
2003-08-27 by Paul Roark
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