I'm with you. I'm not happy that these products cost so much. However, I'm happy to pay what it takes to keep good developers working and creating/improving products that I need and use. It's easy to copy Photoshop. But, every time one gives it away, you're cutting down on the amount of time/money that Adobe can use to improve the product. So, either the product doesn't get improved the way it could, or the actual buyers of the product will be paying more. In reality, all of the security features that are included in software products today do not create much of an operational problem for the legit owners of the software. Most of the complaining I hear comes from people that can't easily steal software (or music, for that matter). Also, even though I am not using the profiles/software that are provided at no cost by some individuals, I believe that they provide at least two valuable services to the user community. One is that they are providing useful software to users that can't afford to purchase commercial software. The other is that, in many cases, these people are doing things in software, or putting it on operating systems, that the commercial developers would shy away from due to lack of a perceived market. This can provide a bit of a push to commercial developers to keep innovating. All users of these free products should at least be supporting these people with their thanks, and, most of all, honest feedback on their products. Again, high quality is not free or even cheap. It's paid for by sweat, time, and money. Tom Baker Clayton Jones <cj@...> wrote: Hello Mitch, >This has not been my experience... Thanks for presenting the other side. Even though I don't use IP, being a software developer I'd like to add some comments about the price and the dongle: price - their price is probably a realistic reflection of their costs. Complex programs require talented programmers, which don't come cheap. It order to stay in business for the long haul they have to pay their people good salaries to keep them, and still earn a livable profit. Every company has to decide what it's target market is. Obviously they have targeted the professionals, not the consumers. Only the professionals can afford the price they need to get. If a pro can afford 8k for a 1Ds and 3k for a 7600, then he/she can afford IP as well - it's just another tool to be written off as an expense. Having someone like Roy Harrington who is willing to spend countless hours writing a RIP for free is a rare blessing. He must have a source of income that allows him time to do it. That's great, but it is unrealistic to expect that all programs should be free or cheap. Most people have to earn a living from their endeavors. dongle - Unfortunately a pita, but one of the few ironclad defenses against piracy. Most software solutions can be hacked. Also unfortunately, their fear of piracy is well founded: the world _is_ full of thieves. There is very little integrity in the world today. People of true integrity are a minority. Would you go to the mall without locking your car? The only constraint against stealing seems to be whether or not one can get away with it. I have no doubt that if the dongle were not used there would be many people using IP without paying for it. It's sad, but piracy is a fact of life. I know because my software is pirated. IMO, we should be happy that IP exists and be willing to pay the freight and keep the company healthy so they are still there tomorrow. Regards, Clayton Info on black and white digital printing at http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - Include your full name with your message. - Include the address of your website, if you have one. - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames - Complete your Yahoo profile. - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: ImagePrint experiences
2003-09-19 by Tom Baker
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