Digital BW, The Print

I find that the blacks from about 80 to 100% look about the same.  There is a big jump at about 82%.  Also the mid tones do not have much separation and that there is a big step from 0 to 5%.  Am I doing something wrong?  I'm using PS7 with Adobe RGB, no color correction and EEM paper.  Inks are original VM and curves are the UT curves for the 1160. With the old curves if is very black from about 55% so I did see a change.

Bob
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mark Hahn 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 2:14 AM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: best warm tone for 1160?


  WOW!!!!!!!!!!!  Thanks!!!!  Those curves change everything!  I've 
  been fighting with the original curves for 2 years and had just come 
  to accept that some images just could not be successfully printed in 
  quadtone... one of the hardest ones that I had been working on just 
  yesterday printed perfectly first try with the new curves!!!  
  Yeah!!!  Hats off to Paul!!!

  mark

  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew Unger" 
  <ungram@y...> wrote:
  > Mark, I'm assuming that you are using the original VM inkset and 
  the 
  > original Roark 1160 curves.  I switched to the new curves designed 
  > for the Ultratone VM inkset but am still using the original VM and 
  > found a great improvement because the new curves have a smooth 
  > transition.  The shadow problem is no more.  Reprinting some old 
  > favorites has shown how much better the new curves are.  The toning 
  > works just fine with the new curves too.  The new Ultratone VM set 
  > will probably give even more improvement.  You can find the curves 
  > and instructions in files/MIS/Ultratones/1160.  Remember to use "no 
  > color adjustment" in the print dialog for color management.  - Andy
  > 
  > 
  > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Hahn" 
  > <markhahn2000@y...> wrote:
  > > I have been using the MIS-VM inkset with Roark curves and find 
  > that I 
  > > am exclusively shooting warm or medium warm ink... doesn't seem I 
  > > really need the variable inkset and while I am generally happy 
  > with 
  > > the results, shadows are often a problem.  Do the Original or FS 
  > > inksets give better shadow details?  If so, what 
  curves/workflow?  
  > > Opinions on best results?
  > > 
  > > thanks,
  > > 
  > > mark
  > > 
  > > PS  I recognize that I am asking for opinions only...


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