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RE: [Digital BW] New cotton papers -- Carbon on Cotton is the mantra

2003-10-07 by David R. Spielman

Paul,

According to this web site, this paper is only in sheets and only in 8.5" x
11" and 12" x 12"

Doesn't seem very useful to have such a great paper only available in these
sizes. What about larger formats?

Am I missing something?

Didn't you receive some of this stuff from Epson in a roll earlier in the
year?

I know Earnest Brooks printed his last show in Santa Barbara with Epson
UltraSmooth and it looked great - almost as good as your
stuff you had at the Solvang show :-) (notice I said 'almost' as good)

Best Regards,

David R. Spielman


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Paul Roark [mailto:paul.roark@...]
  Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 3:42 PM
  To: DigitalB&WPrint
  Subject: [Digital BW] New cotton papers -- Carbon on Cotton is the mantra


  Epson UltraSmooth has been released by Epson as PremierArt Matte Scrapbook
  Photo Paper -- and at a reasonable price.  See


http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/ProductMediaSpec.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&i
  nfoType=Overview&oid=-11066&category=Paper+%26+Media

  I have some and it prints just like the "UltraSmooth" that I'd previously
  been sent.

  The lack of optical brighteners and flaking are especially notable.

  Permajet has also sent me some papers.  They now have a winner which was
  labeled "ISC" in the box I received.  It may be the best paper I've ever
  used.  It is said to be cotton, buffered, and have no optical brighteners.
  I have had not flaking with it yet, and it's dmax is the best of the
cotton
  papers, equaling EAM at 1.67 (Eboni & 1280), and beating PhotoRag (1.66)
and
  PremierArt/UltraSmooth (1.61).

  The paper whites measure as follows with my X-Rite (in C, M, Y, Visual
  order) order:

  EAM:            5, 5, 3, 5;

  PhotoRag      3, 4, 3, 3;

  PremierArt      2, 3, 4, 2;

  ISC            3, 5, 7, 4.

  While the PremierArt measures as having the brightest visual density, I
find
  PhotoRag looks the "whitest."  PremierArt and ISC both appear to me to be
  about the same, and I prefer their creamier look next to the Light
  Impressions Exeter "Gallery White" mat board I use.  The papers that do
not
  use the optical brighteners should be free of the yellowing I see in fade
  testing the optically brightened papers.

  Epson claims its PremierArt paper is the most archival it has.

  I think buffered cotton papers, especially with no optical brighteners,
take
  us to an archival status that now exceeds the wet-process, older
  technologies.  "Carbon on cotton" is the new mantra.

  We have some very fine papers here.

  To complement them and get the best inks to the scrapbook and genealogist
  fans (or others who want to print from a non-Photoshop application), I've
  sent MIS the mix for a pure carbon UT inkset that prints in the 1280 with
no
  need for Photoshop.  I'll also try to get the same capability to the
  cheapest feasible Epson printer to open this up to the widest possible
  audience.  This is a monotone, straight UT warm-gray ink that has no toner
  and is not variable.  I think the carbon tone is ideal for old photo
  reproductions.  Since it has no color pigments in it, it will probably be
  the most stable and archival ink.  (The standard UT inkset is still what I
  recommend for Photoshop users.  With the warm curve, it is essentially the
  same as the "no-workflow" UT carbon inkset.)

  Paul
  http://www.PaulRoark.com



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