Digital BW, The Print

Harvey, 

By that logic, 

how does "selenium toned silver gelatin print" describe the all important process of the "silver gelatin print"?

Harvey wrote: (snip)

The proper way (in my opinion) to get the 'type' of ink in the description, would be to call the print:
'Carbon Pigment Inkjet Print' (like a 'selenium toned silver gelatin print').  To call it simply a 'Carbon
Pigment Print' does not tell you the process; it could just as easily been done via an etching, serigraph,
photo gravure...Whatever.  It only tells you the ink, not the process.

Harvey Ferdschneider



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: SKID Photography 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 5:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Gallery Rules


  Tyler Boley wrote:

  > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., SKID Photography <skid@b...> wrote:
  > > Again, The reason for labeling is not to promote one brand over another, it is to give basic information.
  > > Museums, which I would consider 'the last word' on this sort of thing (Museums being the most branding
  > > neutral, and academically oriented) calls them 'inkjet prints' (first), and then other information
  > *follows*
  > > that.  The point is clear information, not branding or any other commercial promotion.
  > >
  > > By going down the 'branding' road, we put ourselves in the same position of that group that trademarked
  > the
  > > name 'Giclee', this clearly has *nothing* to do with art, and is totally a commerce issue.
  > >
  > > Harvey Ferdschneider
  > > partner, SKID Photography, NYC
  >
  > Harvey, I guess I'm not understanding you reference to branding. Aren't carbon pigments simply the material
  > making up
  > the image, like platinum, or toned gelatin silver?

  Tyler,
  By 'branding' I was referring to the 'Giclee', or calling the prints peizography prints' (Which for all
  intents and purposes is a brand name).  Also, calling an inkjet print made with carbon pigment inks, a 'Carbon
  Pigment Print', is reducing the description of the process and materials to a brand: 'Carbon Pigment Print'.

  The proper way (in my opinion) to get the 'type' of ink in the description, would be to call the print:
  'Carbon Pigment Inkjet Print' (like a 'selenium toned silver gelatin print').  To call it simply a 'Carbon
  Pigment Print' does not tell you the process; it could just as easily been done via an etching, serigraph,
  photo gravure...Whatever.  It only tells you the ink, not the process.

  Harvey Ferdschneider
  partner, SKID Photography, NYC



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