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Re: 2100/2200 Ultratone curves in the files section

2003-11-02 by jsinger986

I'm pretty sure I'm being a dunce here but...

I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say you have curves for the 2200 MIS 
Ultratone inks, but the curves don't work with the 2200 with the MIS Ultratone Inks 
sold on the website.

What inks are you using because I don't see anything for (as you listed them) 
"Ultratone cyan, Ultratone light cyan, Ultratone magenta, Ultratone light magenta, and 
ultratone yellow" on their website.

I can only guess that you mean the inks MIS has listed on their website in those 
positions, meaning "cyan position 75% black, light cyan position - cool toner, etc, etc, 
etc respectively."

In which case, the only difference between yours and the MIS Ultratone set is the 
"archival 7600 light black."  What ink is that?

Currently I'm using a 2200+IP for B&W.  I'm planning on buying the MIS Ultratones 
tomorrow to give them a shot, but I'm not sure what I should be buying.  My original 
thoughts were to use OPM/IJC... but I also want to give your curves a try.  Now I'm 
even more confused :-(

Confused,
Jeff
http://www.jeffsingerphotography.com



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Staver" <daniel@p...> 
wrote:
> My set of curves for the 2100/2200 with MIS Ultratones is now placed in
> the files section.
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/Ink%20S
> ets/MIS/MIS%20Ultra%20Tone%20Inks/
> 
> Files > Ink Sets > MIS > MIS UltraTone Inks > Ultratone 2100 Curves.zip
> 
> They are NOT compatible with the 2200 Ultratone inkset that MIS are
> currently selling on their web-pages. I don't believe that setup can
> work with a curve-based workflow.
> 
> You'll need the following inks:
> 
> Black position:		Eboni Black
> Light Black position:	Archival 7600 Light Black
> Cyan position:		Ultratone Cyan
> Light Cyan position:	Ultratone Light Cyan
> Magenta position:		Ultratone Magenta
> Light Magenta position:	Ultratone Light Magenta
> Yellow position:		Ultratone Yellow
> 
> In other words I'm using the same ink positions as the other hextone
> printers, but with an added light black in the that position.
> 
> I spent yesterday morning creating a new neutral warm curve, so my set
> of curves should now be complete with warm, neutral warm, neutral and
> cool curves. All of the curves are based on Paul Roark's 1290 curves,
> but only the warm curve is a direct translation. The others are
> composites, made from several different layers of curves and adjustments
> layers which I've merged into a single new curve once I was happy with
> them. This probably means that these three curves won't match the 1290
> curves in tone, since I've pretty much adjusted the tones according to
> my own preferences.
> 
> I'd be happy to recieve feedback and comments on the curves, and I'll do
> my best to improve them if there is anything specific you'd like to see
> changed.
> 
> --
> Daniel Staver
> http://daniel.staver.no

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