Digital BW, The Print

> I've read of initial problems with the Septone system (cartridge 
issues), but I believe they've all be resolved. I use IP 5.6 (PC) for 
both color and B&W printing. I can assure you that grayscale output, 
at least to my eye, is dead neutral when using tint 50,50. Other tint 
values can be specified which will subtlely shift the "color" either 
warmer or cooler. No where near the tone shifts of, say, the MIS UT 
inkset and Paul's curves, but slight toning nonetheless. 

.....Just a thought, but what stops you printing as a colour image in 
IP?  Can't you just add your Sepia/selenium or whatever layer to your 
B&W image and print it with the 'colour' engine?  Only curious as I 
am considering this as my future in printing with a 4000.  One of my 
ideas was that I could replace Sepia, UT and colour inksets / 
workflows in one hit.  Is it that the B&W engine cuts the use of 
yellow?  If you then print a B&W/Sepia/heavily toned image as a 
colour file this is back in?  What about images where they are fully 
B&W but for a tiny detail in colour.  I do this a lot and it has been 
the bane of my life as I can't use my UT inkset - I have to use the 
colour set and it's naff.  Would appreciate your comments, i don't 
know the system very well.....

Steve.



With Septone, keep in mind that you would have to dedicate a 2200 to 
B&W only and the cartridges are approx twice the cost of the standard 
Epson cartridges.
> 
> Just a couple of thoughts....
> 
> Alan Huntley
> 
> > 
> > From: "neilsphoto" <neilsphoto@y...>
> > Date: 2003/11/10 Mon AM 09:14:41 EST
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Image Print vs Septone
> > 
> > A simple question w/o a simple answer.  I print 90% B&W and have 
been 
> > happy with matte black ink on matte paper in my 2200.   Very near 
neutral 
> > prints except for when I get window light on them.   Nothing new 
here.
> > 
> > So between those 2 options which to choose.  Leave price out for 
now.  One 
> > uses OE ink so clogging etc should not be any more of a problem 
than 
> > normal. 
> >  Problems with Septone ink?  Anyone know?  I can 2200 Ink at 
Staples Office 
> > stores. Another plus.   I think the closer I stay with OE  Epson 
materials the 
> > better.  I want to print not tinker.
> > 
> > How about using the programs?   Easy to pick up or do you 
wonder "huh 
> > what?" too often.    I'm on OS X.
> > 
> > And they really really work?    Has IP really got no color shift 
using the same 
> > ink as Epson?   
> > 
> > All comments welcome, thanks
> > 
> > Neil