Digital BW, The Print

Martin,

You wrote, in part:

>Even though they are more expensive I personally prefer the Selenium
>PiezoTone over the MIS FS and they are much more fade and warm shift
>resistant.

I have sent MIS the formulas for upgraded Piezo-compatible inks that are
based on the Ultra Tone inks -- which is becoming a family of inks now.
They are state-of-the-art, as lightfast as the PiezoTone inks, and RC/glossy
paper compatible also (like the Epson UltraChrome inks).  There is a
neutral/"selenium" toned version and a warm, pure carbon version.  Tones of
ink between these 2 can be mixed easily.  In fact, if one wants different
tones in different parts density scale (for example, warmer highlights than
midtones), the 3 midtone inks need not be the same mix of the two monotone
versions that now exist.  (I'm sure MIS will mix a medium warm version if
people want it.)

I also have new 1160 curves for the UT monotone inks.  For the 1160 I have
the usual fully-partitioned curves for EEM and PhotoRag.  For EEM I also
have a "mildly" partitioned curve that may be more tolerant of printer
differences, as well as a grayscale curve and Transfer Function to control
the inks.  (The grayscale curve/TF print rougher.)  Additionally, I will
soon have new curves for the 3000.

So, as far as I'm concerned the FS inks are history.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Wesley [mailto:mwesley250@...]
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 6:17 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] New PiezoBW upgrade / MIS


* -----Original Message-----
* From: Jan Becket [mailto:jbecket@...]
* Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 3:34 PM
* To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
* Subject: [Digital BW] New PiezoBW upgrade / MIS
*
*
* Hello,
*
* It may be too early to ask, but has anyone ordered and tried the
* new Cone Piezo upgrade with a non-Cone inset such as MIS
* FS?  I've been pretty happy with the old combo of Piezo plug-in
* and MIS FS on my 3000s, but the Cone website sounds like the
* upgrade also requires changing to the Cone inks.
*
* It may just be a sales smokescreen, but if that's really the case,
* I'm going to wait until I have used up my supply of MIS inks.
*
Jan,

The new software just became available today so there is not much info at
this point. I will  try the upgrade for my 1280 with the PiezoTone inks and
report back.

Since the MIS FS was designed as a "clone" of the original Piezo or Sundance
inks and the Piezotones inks were designed to match the same density to work
with the plug-in I would think that you would be reasonably close with the
new software and the FS inks. However, since the ICC profiles or the plug-in
were specifically designed for specific ink density the match may not be as
good. We won't know until someone tries it an reports back.

Even though they are more expensive I personally prefer the Selenium
PiezoTone over the MIS FS and they are much more fade and warm shift
resistant.

The Piezo 2 upgrade for you would only be $49 so maybe you will be the one
to give it a try with the 3000 and MIS FS, and let us know how it goes.<G>

Martin Wesley
http://www.carolyn.cc/Guests/MartinWesley/pages/MW_01.html
http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html





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