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Re: [Digital BW] Photo Rag 308 color--warmer than EEM?

2003-11-21 by mrjerryjm

Something didn't sound right about Hahnemühle Photo Rag 308 being 
regarded as "warmer" than Epson Enhanced Matte, so I measured new, 
unused surfaces of each in Lab mode.

Hahnemühle Photo Rag 308:  L 104.7   a -2.36   b 2.71
Epson Enhanced Matte:      L 103.8   a -3.20   b 3.75

Hahnemühle Photo Rag is both "brighter" and "whiter" (more neutral) 
than Epson Enhanced Matte.

Measured with a calibrated Color Savvy Spectrophotometer. Perhaps 
someone else with a spectrophotometer or color densitometer cares to 
validate this observation?

Jerry McCollum



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "David 
Wroblewski" <dawroblewski@y...> wrote:
> It's very possible that I'm recalling what PR looked like under
> incandescent lighting. I'm viewing them next to a window under
> midday north light today; last year I was doing most of my 
> printing in the evenings.
> 
> Thanks to both of you who responded--this puts my mind at ease.
> I was worried I hadn't stored the paper correctly.
> 
> david
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Jack M Kucy 
> <jmk@j...> wrote:
> > In my opinion it's much warmer.  When you thought they are close 
> you 
> > must have looked at them using a normal household incandescent 
> light. 
> >  Then the difference is not that obvious I suppose.
> > Jack
> > 
> > _________________________________________________
> > Jack M Kucy
> > JMK Gallery (www.jmk-gallery.com)
> > 917-991-2096     jmk@j...
> > Member of ASMP (www.asmp.org)
> > _________________________________________________
> > ...a riveder le stelle
> > 
> > 
> > David Wroblewski wrote:
> > 
> > > I just (re)opened a box of Hahnemuhle Photo Rag 308
> > > that I haven't used since I printed Christmas
> > > pictures last year. I loosely resealed the box and set
> > > it aside last December.
> > >
> > > My recollection is that Photo Rag is virtually the same
> > > color as Epson Enhanced Matt.
> > >
> > > When I look at it now, however, it is distinctly warmer
> > > than EEM, a light creamy color. Not ugly, just warmer than
> > > I expected. The warm tone is totally even on all sheets
> > > of the paper in the box. It doesn't look like discoloration,
> > > but on the other hand, I could swear it was closer to
> > > EEM-white when I first used it. But maybe I've just gotten
> > > too used to looking at EEM...
> > >
> > > Could someone confirm that Photo Rag is indeed warmer
> > > than EEM?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > David
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > --

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