Thanks for doing that measurement.
I went back and looked at identical sample prints I made last
year on about two dozen different papers. Sure enough, the
HPR sample appears to be a very light cream color when held
next to the EEM. And when I hold it next to a one of the sheets
I was using today, they match, exactly, to my eye.
I don't have a spectrophotometer, but the warmth in my HPR
is unmistakable, particularly when held side-by-side with EEM.
It would be interesting if other folks with fancy equipment
got the same result as you. I wouldn't know how to explain it,
though.
-david
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "mrjerryjm"
<jerry.mccollum@c...> wrote:
> Something didn't sound right about Hahnemühle Photo Rag 308
being
> regarded as "warmer" than Epson Enhanced Matte, so I measured new,
> unused surfaces of each in Lab mode.
>
> Hahnemühle Photo Rag 308: L 104.7 a -2.36 b 2.71
> Epson Enhanced Matte: L 103.8 a -3.20 b 3.75
>
> Hahnemühle Photo Rag is both "brighter" and "whiter" (more
neutral)
> than Epson Enhanced Matte.
>
> Measured with a calibrated Color Savvy Spectrophotometer. Perhaps
> someone else with a spectrophotometer or color densitometer cares
to
> validate this observation?
>
> Jerry McCollum
>
>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "David
> Wroblewski" <dawroblewski@y...> wrote:
> > It's very possible that I'm recalling what PR looked like under
> > incandescent lighting. I'm viewing them next to a window under
> > midday north light today; last year I was doing most of my
> > printing in the evenings.
> >
> > Thanks to both of you who responded--this puts my mind at ease.
> > I was worried I hadn't stored the paper correctly.
> >
> > david
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Jack M Kucy
> > <jmk@j...> wrote:
> > > In my opinion it's much warmer. When you thought they are
close
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> > you
> > > must have looked at them using a normal household incandescent
> > light.
> > > Then the difference is not that obvious I suppose.
> > > Jack
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > David Wroblewski wrote:
> > >
> > > > I just (re)opened a box of Hahnemuhle Photo Rag 308
> > > > that I haven't used since I printed Christmas
> > > > pictures last year. I loosely resealed the box and set
> > > > it aside last December.
> > > >
> > > > My recollection is that Photo Rag is virtually the same
> > > > color as Epson Enhanced Matt.
> > > >
> > > > When I look at it now, however, it is distinctly warmer
> > > > than EEM, a light creamy color. Not ugly, just warmer than
> > > > I expected. The warm tone is totally even on all sheets
> > > > of the paper in the box. It doesn't look like discoloration,
> > > > but on the other hand, I could swear it was closer to
> > > > EEM-white when I first used it. But maybe I've just gotten
> > > > too used to looking at EEM...
> > > >
> > > > Could someone confirm that Photo Rag is indeed warmer
> > > > than EEM?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --