David, you guessed right. Ink limit is a prepress term and refers to the maximum a= mount of ink that can be laid down safely on a given paper. There are assumptions be= hind these numbers that make them rather approximate when it comes to inkjet (su= ch as what kind of ink is used etc). As for what 240% means: Each "color" or "plate" is assumed to reach its max= imum at 100%. So in a typical 4-color print (CMYK) the maximum that can potentially= be laid down is 400%. Your 2200 can potentially lay down 700% !! All this is more relevant to those who make profiles and can fine-tune the = Undercolor Removal based on percentages like these. Otherwise, I don't know that I wou= ld buy one paper over another based on a manufacturer's spec for total ink load. For practical purposes in bw printing on the 2200.... the more pure black y= ou lay down at the 100% end of the grayscale and the less of the other inks the be= tter your dmax will be. That would make the desirable total to something like 120%. = Note that the actual amount of ink that corresponds to what we define in cu= rves, profiles etc as 100% for any given jet can be internally limited by the pri= nter driver - or not. If the driver offers no choice for ink limits, then printing a 100%= patch of pure black ink can make it run off the page, even if the paper is capable of a = higher load in %numbers. And if ink doesn't litterally "run off the page", it will all = appear plugged up. In other words, when we call a digital value of 100% - or 255 - there is no= generally- agreed-upon amount of actual liquid that comes off the nozzle and onto the = paper. It depends on how much the hardware is capable of and what commands are sent b= y the driver. Which makes the % value only relative, not absolute. 100% is va= lid only if you test for a given ink and determine the maximum amount of liquid the pap= er will take before it stops looking any darker. In that sense, all these percents = have different meanings for inkjets than they do in the prepress world where ink= s are off- set from a cylindrical plate onto paper (and old-fashioned raster dots rule= ). All this, of course, is masked from the end user when the Epson driver is u= sed and proper media settings and profiles are chosen. But for best control in bw p= rinting, we have to go where no color-loving, average end-user would want to go. Antonis --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "David Wroblewski" <dawroblewski@y...> wrote: > I've been looking at the specs for papers recently, and I've > come across references to an "ink limit" for a paper-- > for example, the Photo Rag datasheet on the Hahnemühle web > site characterizes the paper as having an "ink limit" > of 240%. > > I gather that this is terminology from the printing press > world, and that it means how much ink (240% of what?) > the paper will accept before it get soggy. Does it have any > practical application in the digital b/w world of inkjet > printers? > > I've only ever worked with an Epson 2200 (Windows XP and lately > QTR/Linux) so I assume that the media setting is the indirect > control for this. Or is this indirectly controlled by the various > curves we use to print files in B&W? Maybe fancy rips allow one > to control this directly somehow? If so, is that useful in > practice? > > Thanks, > david
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Re: "Ink limit" -- what is it?
2003-11-22 by Antonis Ricos
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