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"Ink limit" -- what is it?

"Ink limit" -- what is it?

2003-11-22 by David Wroblewski

I've been looking at the specs for papers recently, and I've
come across references to an "ink limit" for a paper--
for example, the Photo Rag datasheet on the Hahnemühle web
site characterizes the paper as having an "ink limit"
of 240%.

I gather that this is terminology from the printing press
world, and that it means how much ink (240% of what?)
the paper will accept before it get soggy. Does it have any
practical application in the digital b/w world of inkjet 
printers? 

I've only ever worked with an Epson 2200 (Windows XP and lately
QTR/Linux) so I assume that the media setting is the indirect
control for this. Or is this indirectly controlled by the various 
curves we use to print files in B&W? Maybe fancy rips allow one 
to control this directly somehow? If so, is that useful in 
practice?

Thanks,
david

Re: "Ink limit" -- what is it?

2003-11-22 by Dean Beattie

Hi David,

I hope this will help you out. It is a bit technical, but it explains it we=
ll.


To make color separations, the three additive colors (red, green, and blue)=
 are 
translated into their subtractive counterparts (cyan, magenta, and yellow).=
 In theory, 
equal parts of cyan, magenta, and yellow combine to subtract all light refl=
ected from 
the paper and create black. Due to impurities present in all printing inks,=
 however, a 
mix of these colors instead yields a muddy brown. To compensate for this de=
ficiency 
in the color separation process, printers remove some cyan, magenta, and ye=
llow in 
areas where the three colors exist in equal amounts, and they add black ink=
. 

A given color can be translated from RGB mode to CMYK mode in an endless nu=
mber 
of ways. But prepress operators typically use one of the following ways to =
generate 
black in print:
*	In undercolor removal (UCR), black ink is used to replace cyan, magenta, =
and 
yellow ink in neutral areas only (that is, areas with equal amounts of cyan=
, magenta, 
and yellow). This results in less ink and greater depth in shadows. Because=
 it uses 
less ink, UCR is used for newsprint and uncoated stock, which generally hav=
e greater 
dot gain than coated stock.
*	In gray component replacement (GCR), black ink is used to replace portion=
s of 
cyan, magenta, and yellow ink in colored areas as well as in neutral areas.=
 GCR 
separations tend to reproduce dark, saturated colors somewhat better than U=
CR 
separations do and maintain gray balance better on press.

Choose the type of separation based on your paper stock and the requirement=
s of 
your print shop.

To adjust the separation type and black generation:

1.	In the Custom CMYK dialog box, select a separation type.

The Separation Options area displays a graph based on current settings show=
ing how 
neutral colors in the image will separate. In the graph, sometimes called a=
 gray ramp, 
neutral colors have equal parts of cyan, magenta, and yellow. The horizonta=
l axis 
represents the neutral color value, from 0% (white) to 100% (black). The ve=
rtical axis 
represents the amount of each ink that will be generated for the given valu=
e. In most 
cases, the cyan curve extends beyond the magenta and yellow curves, because=
 a 
small extra amount of cyan is required to produce a true neutral. 
2.	If you selected GCR as the separation type, choose an option for Black 
Generation:
*	None generates the color separation using no black plate.
*	The Light and Heavy settings decrease and increase the effect of the Medi=
um 
setting (the default). In most cases, Medium produces the best results. 
*	Maximum maps the gray value directly to the black plate. This option is u=
seful 
for images with a large amount of solid black against a light background, s=
uch as 
screen shots from a computer.
*	Custom lets you adjust the black generation curve manually. Before choosi=
ng 
Custom, first choose an option (Light, Medium, Heavy, or Maximum) that is c=
losest to 
the type of black generation you want. This gives you a black generation cu=
rve to use 
as a starting point. Then choose Custom, position the pointer on the curve,=
 and drag 
to adjust the black curve. The curves for cyan, magenta, and yellow are adj=
usted 
automatically relative to the new black curve and the total ink densities.

If needed, specify values for Black Ink Limit and Total Ink Limit (the maxi=
mum ink 
density your press can support). Check with your print shop to see if you s=
hould 
adjust these values. 

In the Gray Ramp graph, these limits determine the cutoff points for the CM=
YK curves.
4.	If you selected GCR as the separation type, specify an amount for underc=
olor 
addition (UCA) to increase the amount of CMY added to shadow areas. Check w=
ith 
your print shop for the preferred value. If you are unsure of this value, l=
eave it at 0%.

UCA compensates for the loss of ink density in neutral shadow areas. This a=
dditional 
ink produces rich, dark shadows in areas that might appear flat if printed =
with only 
black ink. UCA can also prevent posterization in subtle detail in the shado=
ws. 

Hope this helps
-Dean
www.deanmbeattiephoto.com
Fine Art Black and White Photography



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "David Wroblewski" 
<dawroblewski@y...> wrote:
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> I've been looking at the specs for papers recently, and I've
> come across references to an "ink limit" for a paper--
> for example, the Photo Rag datasheet on the Hahnemühle web
> site characterizes the paper as having an "ink limit"
> of 240%.
> 
> I gather that this is terminology from the printing press
> world, and that it means how much ink (240% of what?)
> the paper will accept before it get soggy. Does it have any
> practical application in the digital b/w world of inkjet 
> printers? 
> 
> I've only ever worked with an Epson 2200 (Windows XP and lately
> QTR/Linux) so I assume that the media setting is the indirect
> control for this. Or is this indirectly controlled by the various 
> curves we use to print files in B&W? Maybe fancy rips allow one 
> to control this directly somehow? If so, is that useful in 
> practice?
> 
> Thanks,
> david

Re: "Ink limit" -- what is it?

2003-11-22 by Antonis Ricos

David,

you guessed right. Ink limit is a prepress term and refers to the maximum a=
mount of 
ink that can be laid down safely on a given paper. There are assumptions be=
hind 
these numbers that make them rather approximate when it comes to inkjet (su=
ch as 
what kind of ink is used etc).

As for what 240% means: Each "color" or "plate" is assumed to reach its max=
imum at 
100%. So in a typical 4-color print (CMYK) the maximum that can potentially=
 be laid 
down is 400%. Your 2200 can potentially lay down 700% !! 

All this is more relevant to those who make profiles and can fine-tune the =
Undercolor 
Removal based on percentages like these. Otherwise, I don't know that I wou=
ld buy 
one paper over another based on a manufacturer's spec for total ink load.

For practical purposes in bw printing on the 2200.... the more pure black y=
ou lay 
down at the 100% end of the grayscale and the less of the other inks the be=
tter your 
dmax will be.  That would make the desirable total to something like 120%. =


Note that the actual amount of ink that corresponds to what we define in cu=
rves, 
profiles etc as 100% for any given jet can be internally limited by the pri=
nter driver - 
or not. If the driver offers no choice for ink limits, then printing a 100%=
 patch of pure 
black ink can make it run off the page, even  if the paper is capable of a =
higher load 
in %numbers. And if ink doesn't litterally "run off the page", it will all =
appear plugged 
up. 

In other words, when we call a digital value of 100% - or 255 - there is no=
 generally-
agreed-upon amount of actual liquid that comes off the nozzle and onto the =
paper. It 
depends on how much the hardware is capable of and what commands are sent b=
y 
the driver. Which makes the % value only relative, not absolute. 100% is va=
lid only if 
you test for a given ink and determine the maximum amount of liquid the pap=
er will 
take before it stops looking any darker. In that sense, all these percents =
have 
different meanings for inkjets than they do in the prepress world where ink=
s are off-
set from a cylindrical plate onto paper (and old-fashioned raster dots rule=
).

All this, of course, is masked from the end user when the Epson driver is u=
sed and 
proper media settings and profiles are chosen. But for best control in bw p=
rinting, we 
have to go where no color-loving, average end-user would want to go.


Antonis


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "David Wroblewski" 
<dawroblewski@y...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> I've been looking at the specs for papers recently, and I've
> come across references to an "ink limit" for a paper--
> for example, the Photo Rag datasheet on the Hahnemühle web
> site characterizes the paper as having an "ink limit"
> of 240%.
> 
> I gather that this is terminology from the printing press
> world, and that it means how much ink (240% of what?)
> the paper will accept before it get soggy. Does it have any
> practical application in the digital b/w world of inkjet 
> printers? 
> 
> I've only ever worked with an Epson 2200 (Windows XP and lately
> QTR/Linux) so I assume that the media setting is the indirect
> control for this. Or is this indirectly controlled by the various 
> curves we use to print files in B&W? Maybe fancy rips allow one 
> to control this directly somehow? If so, is that useful in 
> practice?
> 
> Thanks,
> david

Re: "Ink limit" -- what is it?

2003-11-23 by David Wroblewski

Thanks everyone, for your responses to my question. The
depth of expertise on this group is simply amazing to me.

It helps to understand, as Antonis said, that "100% ink
coverage" means is not an absolute amount of ink, but is
determined rather experimentally. I now realize that the 
first step in the QTR calibration procedure, which involves 
printing a special test pattern and choosing at what point 
the ink completely covers a patch of paper, is the 
experiment QTR uses to determine an ink limit for a 
particular printer. 

The practical upshot, if I understand it, is that ink limits
are not adjusted on a print-by-print basis, but rather once
for the ink/printer combination. was my main concern,
though I didn't know it when I asked the question.

If that simplistic accessment is wrong (for inkjet printing)
please feel free to correct/amend; otherwise, I think I 
understand what I need to for the time being.

Again, thanks,
-david

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