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[Digital BW] Re: Black only printing. -> digital capture vs film

2003-11-26 by Mark Hahn

Playing with the Gaussian noise will yeild a decent grain effect.  I 
have played around with it trying to "hide" digital noise in 
the "grain."  To get a Tmax3200 kind of effect I may try printing one 
BO on a 2200... just might work out better that way.

mark

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "chatzebussi" 
<chatzebussi@y...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Conrad Weiser
> <radimus@p...> wrote:
> 
> Rad
> 
> I think this not what I am after. At least I feel that noise and 
grain
> are (visually) not the same. But then I am not an expert. Thanks
> anyway for the hint.
> 
> Chatzebussi 
> 
> > Maybe raise the digicam's ISO so you increase the noise level in 
the 
> > picture?
> > 
> > Rad
> > 
> > chatzebussi wrote:
> > > Steve
> > > 
> > > I couldn't agree more! 
> > > 
> > > Any suggestions on how to bring back real, good looking
> > > (old-fashioned) "grain" in(to) the world of digital B&W 
capture? So
> > > far I haven't come across a software solution that can emulate 
the
> > > special aesthetical quality of high-speed-film grain. 
> > > 
> > > Regards
> > > 
> > > Chatzebussi 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>A few months ago I narrowed down what seems to be a glaringly
> > > 
> > > obvious 
> > > 
> > >>point.  My scanned film has grain.  My Scala work and Neopan 
work
> > > 
> > > has 
> > > 
> > >>grain.  Film highlights have dots - its grain. Grain works well
> > > 
> > > with 
> > > 
> > >>BO printing - Eureka.  I have several prints from Neo400 / 1600
> > > 
> > > that 
> > > 
> > >>look significantly better with BO than with hex.
> > >>
> > >>Now on the digital side, I have used a Fuji S2 for about a year 
and 
> > >>the pretty much noisless/grainless output compared to my 35mm 
film 
> > >>work means that the BO dots are much more visible as the black
> > > 
> > > tries 
> > > 
> > >>to make up the clear highlight end of the spectrum.
> > > 
> > > 
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> > > 
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