Digital BW, The Print

Mark

Sorry, but I am really not quite with you. Could you please enlighten
us on what you mean
by "playing around with the Gaussian noise" etc. How exactly do you
yield a TM 3200 effect - something I am actually after as an addict
available light street photographer. Thanks for sharing your workflow
knowledge.

Chatzebussi  



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Hahn"
<markhahn2000@y...> wrote:
> Playing with the Gaussian noise will yeild a decent grain effect. 
I 
> have played around with it trying to "hide" digital noise in 
> the "grain."  To get a Tmax3200 kind of effect I may try printing
one 
> BO on a 2200... just might work out better that way.
> 
> mark
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "chatzebussi" 
> <chatzebussi@y...> wrote:
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Conrad Weiser
> > <radimus@p...> wrote:
> > 
> > Rad
> > 
> > I think this not what I am after. At least I feel that noise and 
> grain
> > are (visually) not the same. But then I am not an expert. Thanks
> > anyway for the hint.
> > 
> > Chatzebussi 
> > 
> > > Maybe raise the digicam's ISO so you increase the noise level
in 
> the 
> > > picture?
> > > 
> > > Rad
> > > 
> > > chatzebussi wrote:
> > > > Steve
> > > > 
> > > > I couldn't agree more! 
> > > > 
> > > > Any suggestions on how to bring back real, good looking
> > > > (old-fashioned) "grain" in(to) the world of digital B&W 
> capture? So
> > > > far I haven't come across a software solution that can
emulate 
> the
> > > > special aesthetical quality of high-speed-film grain. 
> > > > 
> > > > Regards
> > > > 
> > > > Chatzebussi 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >>A few months ago I narrowed down what seems to be a glaringly
> > > > 
> > > > obvious 
> > > > 
> > > >>point.  My scanned film has grain.  My Scala work and Neopan 
> work
> > > > 
> > > > has 
> > > > 
> > > >>grain.  Film highlights have dots - its grain. Grain works
well
> > > > 
> > > > with 
> > > > 
> > > >>BO printing - Eureka.  I have several prints from Neo400 /
1600
> > > > 
> > > > that 
> > > > 
> > > >>look significantly better with BO than with hex.
> > > >>
> > > >>Now on the digital side, I have used a Fuji S2 for about a
year 
> and 
> > > >>the pretty much noisless/grainless output compared to my 35mm 
> film 
> > > >>work means that the BO dots are much more visible as the black
> > > > 
> > > > tries 
> > > > 
> > > >>to make up the clear highlight end of the spectrum.
> > > > 
> > > > 
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> > > > 
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