Manuel, Some background information on the Epson ink monitor that may help reduce confusion. If you pop the chip off an Epson ink cartridge you'll only see a little blob of epoxy. There are no wires or no sensors into the ink well. The chip is used as a scratch pad by the Epson driver to subtract the amount of ink that it estimates has been used, picoliter by picoliter. You'll also notice that for the multi-color cartridges the ink wells all drop uniformly. I believe the Epson driver is subtracting the worst case amount. [I have an epson 2200 and I find it amazing how vastly different the color consumption is for the different colors. I was surprised to see that Lite Magenta and Lite Cyan are most heavily used with Yellow being the slowest.] There's a device which will reset the ink chips back to full to fool the ink monitor so it will continue to work. There are also chips that reset themselves when the power is turned off the printer. Bottom line: You have to take with a grain of salt what the ink monitor is estimating as the ink level. It does not necessarily reflect reality. I recently bought an Epson 1280 dedicated to black only printing. Following Paul Roark's recommendation, I started off with the UT inks in Epson-replacement cartridges to try it out. I liked them so I ordered the CIS cartridges and UT ink bottles. [I encountered a problem: the chips on the CIS cartridge were not resetting on power down. MIS sent me new chips (pink substrate) that worked fine. The non-resetting chips were on a green substrate.] Your note does not state which printer and MIS cartridges you are using. When I spoke to Bob Zeiger at MIS, he said that the two cartridges are different. The CIS cartridges are simpler and depend on creating an air bubble at the top to regulate ink flow. The Epson-replacement cartridges have a more convoluted path to regulate flow and deter people from refilling them. It's more difficult to force ink back into these, since the air vent is used to limit air intake. There's a guy in Hong Kong, Kui, that's analyzed Epson cartridges: http://www.digital4to.com/ click on Introduction. This gave me a better way to visualize what's going on. It also helped me to conclude that I was better off using cartridges that were engineered for continuos refilling. It's just easier to go with the flow. Hope this is useful. Lincoln Fajardo --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Johnny Eades" <jeades1@s...> wrote: > Hello Manuel, > > It may not be the ink getting low, but the cartridge could have a > buildup of foam so that when you filled the first refill and the ink > flowed out the vent hole appearing to be full, it was really not > full. The overflow was foam buildup. Every other refill I always use > a large syringe and tape over the vent holes and draw out all the > foam and ink inside the chamber before refilling. > > Your friend in Photography, > > Johnny Eades > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Manuel Toledo > <mtoledo@e...> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have a problem with a MIS cartridge that I am using with the UT > > inkset. The ink monitor tells me that the inks are 80% full, but a > > nozzle check shows no lines in the yellow position. I replaced the > > cardritge with an Epson original and noticed that the MIS cartridge > is > > very light. All colors are fine with the Epson cartridge. I think > that > > in the MIS cartridge the yellow-position is empty and the others > are > > running low! > > > > I refilled the cardridge a couple of weeks ago. Prior to that, when > it > > was in the printer, the ink monitor was showing about 10%-20% ink > for > > all colors, but I started to get bad nozzle checks that were > getting > > worse (fast) with cleaning. Originally I thought that it was > clocking. > > However, before refilling I extracted the remaining ink from the > > cartridge. There was very little of it. So I thought that it was > just > > that the sensors where not reliable and that my bad nozzle checks > were > > due to insufficent ink in the cartridge. > > > > However, now the cartridge seems to be empty again! Only about two > weeks > > after reffiling the! During this time I think I have printed the > > equivalent of perhaps four 13x19in. pages only. > > > > Can someone tell me if the capacity of these cartridges is this > low? Or > > perhaps the one I have is defective and should be replaced? I > refilled > > it once after filling it the first time. > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > Your friend in photography, > > Manuel Toledo
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Re: HELP! Problem with MIS carts
2003-12-04 by glean_ideas
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