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RE: [Digital BW] Ink Placement in Quad systems was Re:

2001-10-09 by Alessandro Pardi

Grady,

thanks for you support. I never had any cheerleader before (are you cute?
<g>). I'll let you know as soon as I have any news about it.
BTW, what printer are you printing on? This may make a big difference, the
same difference I experienced between Nevins and Brandin workflows on my
1160: both reliable, but Nevins' didn't partition inks, and that was visible
in the higlights (e.g. bright skies). I guess this isn't a matter (or, at
least, to a much lesser extent) on 6-inks printers.

Alex


> -----Original Message-----
> From: grady carter [mailto:gradycarter@...]
> Sent: lunedì 8 ottobre 2001 20.03
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Ink Placement in Quad systems was Re:
> 
> 
> Alessandro,
> Thank you for responding to the SHADE OF GREY matching
> to the corresponding COLOR INK. Your idea of writing a
> program to those ink positions is intriguing.
> Hopefully when you get your inks, I will be
> cheerleading in your corner for success. I have
> achieved that success of what I see on my monitor is
> what is printed out on my printer. I do believe in
> your case, that quadtones in duotone section of
> photoshop, is the place to deal with greyscale
> placement. Please understand, I am not patting myself
> on the back here. Putting the inks in the right place
> in the color cartridge is the way to go to get very
> predictable results for both greyscale images or color
> images. I can't wait until someone else tries my
> method to see if they will be getting the same
> results...Believe me, it works great...
> 
> --- Alessandro Pardi <alessandro.pardi@...>
> wrote:
> > Grady,
> >  
> > I don't know, too. Yet I think that you need some
> > workflow to print with
> > quads, whatever the ink position is. I made this
> > very simple experiment: I
> > created an image in Photoshop with three patches of
> > 100% Cyan, 100% Magenta
> > and 100% Yellow (image in CMYK mode), and then
> > changed the mode to
> > grayscale. Now Cyan reads 41% gray, Magenta 55% gray
> > and Yellow 7% gray. I
> > don't know how the Epson driver mixes CMYK inks in
> > order to get different
> > shades of gray, and I don't know if these inks are
> > 100% C, M and Y, either,
> > yet I can't think of an easy way to match 7% to 25%,
> > 41% to 50% and 55% to
> > 75%. Remember that it's not enough to have an
> > acceptable print, what we're
> > after is a close as possible match between monitor
> > and print (and you also
> > have the advantage of less visible dots if you
> > separate inks).
> >  
> > Regards,
> > Alessandro Pardi
> >  
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From: Martin Wesley
> > [mailto:mwesley250@earthlink.net]
> > Sent: lunedì 8 ottobre 2001 08.44
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Ink Placement in Quad systems
> > was Re:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Grady,
> > 
> > I have no idea. Perhaps some of the people who have
> > been at this 
> > longer have an explaination. The only think that
> > occures to me is 
> > that they may have wanted to be sure that the
> > lighter grey inks 
> > always fell on top of the darker ones but this is a
> > shot in the dark.
> > 
> > Martin
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...,
> > gradycarter@y... wrote:
> >  >  Therefore, getting back 
> > > to the subject of ink placement in the cartridges,
> > I wondered 
> > > whether or not anyone has tried to place the inks
> > in their proper 
> > > place according to the corresponding shade of the
> > colored inks. 
> > > Why has the ink companies decided to place these
> > inks in such 
> > > a random order.  <snip> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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