Underlying your post is the notion that B&W digital printing should remain the domain of those that could afford the wet darkroom you have priced out for us all. One of the wonderful results of the new digital technology is that it has opened the world of printing photographs to a far broader group of people. I have no doubt that those amongst us who can afford and are prepared to devote greater money to the quest for fine B&W will expand their equipment over time to perhaps include a dedicated B&W printer, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with trying to squeeze the best out of a given budget and the resources immediately to hand. Yes it is _cheaper_ than ever before, but whether you consider it _cheap_ is a matter of personal circumstance. No double standard exists, simply a broadened opportunity to participate in the wonderful world of photography. From: claudej1@... Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:33:37 EST To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Again Double standards Hi all, As a full time shooter and part time magazine writer, tech. editor, I put forth the proposition of a double standard for analog vs. digital vs. hybrid photograpy a while back. However, since it showed up under the title "BW vs. Color," no one ever responded to my original PREMISE, even though it resulted in over 100 "not quite what I had in mind" responses. Back in the darkroom days (long time for me as an adopter of digital output in 1986), we had a color enlarger and a B&W enlarger. We used color paper for color prints and B&W paper for B&W prints. We used fiber based paper for the "good prints" and high gloss RC paper for publication (which ended up in the round file after being turned to half toned dots). To produce, say, up to 16x20 prints, a color darkroom with a 3-lens turret (for all 3 formats) on a long column enlarger and analyser was about $5,000. Throw in some plumbing and an EP-2/RA-$ processor, and you could make the total about 20 grand. Zone VI darkroom equipment (cold head, regulator, precision digital enlarger timer, temperature compensated timer for developer, archival washer for fiber prints, etc.) could be had for a few grand on top of any 4x5 used condenser enlarger. Since 80's pricing would have to be doubled for these inflated times, we could easily extrapolate the numbers to over $40,000 in 2003 money. Now it seems we are trying to get $400 plastic throwaway printers to do this the cheapest way possible with colored inks and bitch about metamerism issues because we are not serious enough to dedicate one for color and one for B&W. In the past, I always reserved fine art B&W for personal work and the Color to earn a living with. That has not changed. But now, I celebrate the incredibly AFFORDABLE way we can all create prints that are better than ever. Yes, I put my money where my mouth is. I'm amazed at how far inkjet has come in the 12 years since I got the first large format inkjet printer (8-bit Encad in 1991). It could only do 256 colors, but anyone could see that within a short time we would print photos with this technolory. I never imagined the cost would go from 11 grand to less than $100 for desktop units...............anyway, I digress. What is wrong with dedicating more than one printer to a specific task? These things are cheap, people. Get one or two with color dyes, one or two with 3rd party pigments (one gloss and one matte black), and do the same with B& W printers. I know most of you can't justify "printers by the dozen," or the really big ones, like some pros can, but for gosh sakes, get a printer dedicated solely to B&W and quit trying to do it with color inks................................digital double standard, indeed!! Intelligent comments invited (no flames please). Claude Jodoin Tech. Editor Rangefinder Publications. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor <http://rd.yahoo.com/SIG=12caf5340/M=266807.4061684.5480892.3957873/D=egrou pweb/S=1705019182:HM/EXP=1071063231/A=1900378/R=1/*http://click.atdmt.com/AV E/go/yhxxxbre02200362ave/direct;wi.300;hi.250/01/&time=1070976831332886> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. 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Re: [Digital BW] Again Double standards
2003-12-09 by Steve Kale
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