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Re: [Digital BW] Neutral Prints On 2200

2003-12-10 by flyfishingusa2002

I don't know what version of the Epson driver your friend is using, 
but on my XP systems when you select "ICM" no further controls are 
shown. Why would they? Choosing to use "ICM" means that you are 
wanting windows to select the printer colotr management.

You mail looks like a plug for dotworks papers to me. 

Injetmall has been trying to produce a ICC profile to obtain b/w 
prints from a 2200, so far they have not managed it.

They only way to do this is to use a RIP of somekind. QTR is my 
choice because it works and its free.

Sierra Gold

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh Jani" 
<shilesh.jani@s...> wrote:
> Richard,
> 
> My friend's system is a PC with Win XP, just so you know.  When 
> setting up the printer, upon choosing ICM, a new set of controls 
> opens up.  It is here, that NCA was checked.
> 
> Then, using "print with preview", keep your image source space 
> to "grayscale" or "adobe RGB 1998", and print with the DotWorks 
> profile.
> 
> A word of caution:  The profile is probably very specific to the 
> paper, so unless EEM and the DotWorks paper are identical, you are 
> highly unlikely to get the same results.
> 
> I will play with the printer some more and post any other 
> clarifications, as necessary.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Shilesh
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Richard 
Sintchak 
> <richcontaxg@s...> wrote:
> > 
> > Tuesday, December 9, 2003, 11:01:53 AM, you wrote:
> > 
> > SJ> Hello All,
> > 
> > SJ> I am fairly experienced with using numerous grayscale inks 
on a 
> > SJ> 1280.  Having previously used color inks to print b/w, I 
know 
> how 
> > SJ> challenging (and frustrating) it can be.  So I was impressed 
> when a
> > SJ> friend of mine recently showed me a 13 x 19 b/w print he 
made 
> on his
> > SJ> 2200.  It was absolutely neutral and showed no evidence of 
> metamerism.
> > 
> > SJ> I went to his home last night and saw first-hand how he 
> stumbled upon
> > SJ> this.  Here goes:
> > 
> > SJ> Paper:  DotWorks FineArt HeavyWeight paper
> > SJ> Printer Settings: Enhanced Matte media setting, 1440 dpi, 
ICM, 
> NCA
> > SJ> Profile:  Downloaded from the dotworks.com website.
> > 
> > SJ> That is it!  The image space can be either grayscale or 
color 
> RGB.
> > 
> > SJ> This was the best print I  have seen from a 2200 that did 
not 
> use 
> > SJ> some fancy RIP.  I am not in anyway connected to DotWorks.  
But 
> I am
> > SJ> sufficiently impressed and thought you 2200 owners may want 
to 
> know.
> > 
> > SJ> I am going to play with his system some more and see if I 
can 
> get 
> > SJ> such fine prints using the profile on other papers.
> > 
> > SJ> Regards.
> > 
> > SJ> Shilesh
> > 
> > Well, I do not see how one can use ICM and NCA at the same time 
so I
> > used NCA with the dotworks FHM profile (assuming that to be
> > Heavyweight Matte) and with Epson EEM on my 2200 my "neutral" B&W
> > print came out greenish under incandescent light, and even 
greener 
> in
> > daylight....
> > 
> > Shilesh, can you expound a bit more on the workflow and did you 
> truly
> > examine his print under vastly different lighting?  This sounds 
so
> > promising based on your enthusiastic comments but obviously so 
far I
> > am disappointed.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Best regards,
> >  Richard                            mailto:richard@c...

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