Yahoo Groups archive

Digital BW, The Print

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 22:56 UTC

Message

RE: [Digital BW] Semi matte, PremierArt Print Shield & The Holy Grail

2003-12-13 by Paul Roark

Bob,

>What is the difference between Premium semi-matte and Premium semi-gloss? I
>can only get semi-gloss in the UK.

Visually, the semi-gloss actually has a bit more texture after it's sprayed.
I prefer its look (and higher dmax -- 2.39).

I notice in the Epson descriptions of the papers that semi-matte can take
lamination -- hot and cold -- whereas semi-gloss does not list that as a
feature.

The sizes that are available in the U.S. indicate that semi-matte is aimed
at pros, whereas the semi-gloss is aimed at consumers.  The lamination
compatibility may be the reason.  In the U.S., large rolls and sizes of
semi-gloss beyond 13" wide are not available.  And the literature on the
Epson 4000 indicate that semi-matte will be available in 17x22 sheets and
16" rolls, but semi-gloss will not be.  On the other hand, I notice 24" and
larger rolls are available outside the U.S. (some of these are not the "250"
weight, however).

In Wilhelm tests, the semi-gloss does 50% or more better in all the fade
measures.  (Dark storage is >200 years for both.)  It may be that the
surface characteristics that aid lamination make the pigments more exposed.
If it's a matter of how well the surface protects the pigment, this
difference might disappear after spraying, but the marketing disadvantage
will not disappear.  I'll probably run some comparative fade tests of
sprayed samples.  

I'll also try dry-mounting both papers to see if they can both take the head
of the press.

Right now, however, I will opt for the semi-gloss if I can find a reasonable
way to get the large sizes in the U.S.  

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 
_______________________________________

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...>

Epson Premium Semi-matte is clearly a contender warranting more experiments.



Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as
they are often being updated.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint

If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to
unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same
page.

Please follow these basic guidelines:
- As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep
them short.
- Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames.
Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the
membership without notice.
- Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W
printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from
the membership.
- By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and
guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and
Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/

BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT
YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND
"MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU
FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY
DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS,
GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE  "OWNER" AND
"MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE
POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY
TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR
ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY
THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER
MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.
 

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Attachments

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.