Digital BW, The Print

Paul

Thanks for this.  I would be very interested in any further Lyson vs
PremierArt testing you do because of the lack of availability of the
PremierArt product here.  I am looking at these prints under halogen
lighting (ceiling recessed spots) - I will check again in daylight in the
tomorrow.  Unfortunately I don¹t yet have the luxury of switching to the UT
inks for a test.  I assume your tests were using the quad UTs rather than
what I think I would initially have to look at ­ the colour UTs.  I am
aiming for an Epson 4000 but can¹t justify two of them ­ and I know that
somehow once I get the bigger size the thought of only being able to print
B&W on the smaller (albeit B&W-dedicated) 2100 won¹t appeal.   I would be
interested if anyone can test the bronzing issue with the UC vs UT (colour
set) inks.

Regards

Steve


From: "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...>
Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:45:25 -0800
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] RC Papers, Print Spray and Bronzing:  what am I
looking for?

Steve,

>... One of the Semi-Gloss prints I sprayed with
>Lyson Print Guard - 3 generous coats with drying time between each.

>What is bronzing, ie what differences should I see...
>I thought that _bronzing_ is the effect that occurs when the prints
>catch light (i.e. viewed at an angle) and the image tends to look
>metallic and begins to disappear.

With the UT inks, I see a warm "bronze" reflection in the shadows, peaking
at about 70%.  Also, there is a reduction of the gloss level at 90 and 95%,
but then the 100% is quite glossy.

> I quite frankly can't see the difference between the sprayed and the
>unsprayed Semi-Gloss prints in this regard.

A couple factors come to mind.  First, while the PremierArt and Lyson sprays
appear to be the same, there could be minor differences.  The only test
strip that I sprayed with Lyson did not show as much reduction in bronzing
as the PremierArt test strip.  I thought this was just inconsistent
techniques, but maybe not.  I'll try to do a more controlled test when I
have more paper.

Second, of course, the Epson UC inks may be different than the MIS UT inks
in their bronzing.  However, I've heard fans of the semi-matte say how
wonderful it is with UC inks -- except for the bronzing.  So, I think it is
there.

Third, I was showing samples in an area that had windows on 3 sides and lots
of natural light flooding the room.  It was hard to see any differences in
that light.  So lighting may be a factor.  In my office, where I have
fluorescent lights, the bronze nearly fluoresces.  So, maybe the types of
lights are also a factor.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 






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