I've used both the UC and UT inks in a 2200 and both inksets seem to exhibit about the same level of bronzing on most RC papers I've used. The only spray treatment I've tried so far has been Kamar Varnish, which does reduce the bronzing, but I didn't like the appearance of the surface after spraying. I'm going to try the epson semi-gloss and PremierArt spray next week with the UC inks and also see what it does for BO printing on RC papers. I tried printing just Eboni on some PermaJet Oyster 271 (a semi-matte RC) and had some promising results after spraying with Kamar. The dmax went from about 1.51 before spraying to 2.17 after spraying with beautiful blacks and a dead neutral tonal scale. Eboni is of course not designed for use with RC papers and it will rub off easily without treatment, but after the Kamar spray the surface is very durable. Problem is that it is very difficult (at least for me) to get an even coating with the Kamar and it is gritty if you don't put enough coats on. Carl On Saturday, December 13, 2003, at 08:32 PM, Steve Kale wrote: > Thanks. I was hoping that the spray (in the belief that the Lyson > product > could well be the same as the PremierArt product) would act as a > cure-all > for RC prints as Paul seemed to be having quite some success with it. > Have > you tried spraying your UC/RC prints with this? Perhaps it is the MIS > Ultratones that are making the real difference... > > Steve > > > From: Carl Schofield <scho@...> > Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:54:35 -0500 > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] RC Papers, Print Spray and Bronzing: what > am I > looking for? > > I haven't tried Epson semi-gloss yet, but with Ilford Smooth Pearl and > similar RC papers I've tried bronzing is very evident. Tilting the > paper back and forth under a light you should see a reflective, > metallic bronze tone at certain angles - particularly in the mid-tones. > There could also be some gloss differential between paper white areas > and ink covered areas. The brown color is from the PK and LK inks, > which are difficult to cool down on most RC papers. You could try > using a much higher cool/warm ratio, but a profile made specifically > for this paper would probably be better. > > Carl > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ---------------------~--> > Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark > Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & > Canada. > http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 > http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/ucIolB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > ~-> > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from > the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > Owner and Moderators. See „Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines‰ in the > Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE „OWNER‰ > AND „MODERATORS‰ OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE „OWNER‰ AND „MODERATORS‰ OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
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Re: [Digital BW] RC Papers, Print Spray and Bronzing: what am I looking for?
2003-12-14 by Carl Schofield
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