Digital BW, The Print

Tyler Boley wrote:

>--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Staver"
><daniel@p...> wrote:
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>>>Colorvision does have restrictions 
>>>about profile distribution, and would have to be contacted to 
>>>make special arrangements.
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>>I was afraid of that. I don't actually own any of this software, but
>>from the various solutions I was looking at they seemed to be the
>>closest to what I had in mind. I don't think I'll pursue this further
>>though, I just thought it would be an interesting idea.
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>I've had hints that they may be very easy to deal with in regard to
>working out special distribution.
>There are other profile editors, one other that works like Doctor Pro
>is made by Kodak. It also applies any Photoshop edit to a profile
>within Photoshop.
>I don't know what distribution restrictions may be involved with it.
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Actually, ther is no restriction in what you can do with a profile 
doctored by DoctorPro..  The only restriction is that which would 
already exist regarding the null profile or whatever profile you altered.

For example.. If the original source profile was made with a standard 
license version of Profile Plus or Profiler Pro, you couldn't distribute 
the doctored profile..  If the source profile was public domain or 
licensed for distribution, you could distribute the doctored version freely.

Here it is from "the horse's mouth."


"I'm a little short on info here... but if you are speaking of applying 
Photoshop curves of your choice to an RGB or CMYK profile, then yes, 
DoctorPRO will do that nicely. You do need to have a starting point, so 
a "null" profile would be needed if you did not have a profile that 
described the current state of your device, and "null" profiles are not 
trivial to create; nor as simple as they sound. If you are speaking of 
B&W workflow, where the channels are not RGB or CMYK but "your choice of 
random grays" instead... then building a Color Look Up Table from 
channel curves, and applying it to the inks in your system would be an 
unlikely idea... since it would incorporate certain assumptions about 
the relationship of the channels to one another in building the color 
cube, and those assumptions would not be appropriate to non-colored 
inks. "Keeping the entire workflow in grayscale" pretty much invalidates 
the color cube in an ICC profile, as it would only use values from the 
axis of that cube, in other words it would allocate the distances 
between the points on the black-to-white rod through the middle of the 
globe, not any other points in or on the globe, as it would with actual 
color data... and would only locate a modest number of points on this 
line, for that matter.

As for the licensing agreement: DoctorPRO edits profiles, it does not 
build them, and as such, no limitations are put on the use of the 
resulting profiles, other than those restrictions already on place from 
the profile you started with.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Inc."

 
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