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Re: Duotone Workflows

2001-08-04 by tyork@accesscable.net

Hi Martin,

Thank you for your suggestion. I am grateful for any and all help. If 
I can get close to the quality I saw in that seleniun print years ago 
I will be a happy camper. When I get something that I feel is pretty 
good I will be glad to share it with the list as a kind of payback 
for the help you guys have given me. Thanks again.

Tim













--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., mwesley250@e... wrote:
> Tim,
> 
> Give this a try. Just a starting point.
> 
> Convert a grayscale to RGB.
> 
> Create a Levels adjustment layer. Switch to the Red channel and set 
> the center gamma slider to about 1.10.
> 
> Create a second Levels layer and set the Blue gamma to 1.10.
> 
> Vary the Opacity of the two adjustment layers to get the tone you 
> want.
> 
> Unless your monitor is closely color calibrated there will be a lot 
> of trial printing to get the tone you want.
> 
> Because of the lot to lot variations in ink and paper there is not 
> firm point for these kinds of adjustments, or at least I have not 
> found any yet. This method give more subtle control than just the 
> channel adjustments. If you get a split tone, do tone selections 
and 
> adjust those seperately.
> 
> No formula, but perhaps a place to start.
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., tyork@a... wrote:
> > Hi Allen,
> > 
> > Thank you for your suggestions. I would like to achieve a b/w 
with 
> as 
> > close to a selenium look as possible. I know that is difficult 
> > because of it's subjectivity but I think you know what i mean. 
The 
> > blue/purplish blacks and deep,rich grays that you could almost 
> scoop 
> > the gray out of. Paper plays a big part to the look I'm trying to 
> > achieve, but if I can come close I will be happy.
> >  Using the duotones will also allow me to print color when I 
> > need/want to. If I can't get this then I will buy a second 
printer, 
> > but that still wouldn't get me my selenium-toned prints. Thanks 
> again.
> > 
> > 
> > Tim 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
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> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., allentakichi@e... wrote:
> > > Tim,
> > > 
> > > The Blatner and Frasier book is invaluable 
> > > for understanding color management and 
> > > how photoshop works and I'd recommend it 
> > > even if you had zero interest in duotones.
> > > 
> > > I get the feeling that you are actually 
> > > interested in duotone simulations using the 
> > > colored inks.  This and neutral printing with 
> > > colored inks is probably the ultimate difficult 
> > > thing to do well.  That's why a real duotone, 
> > > tritone or quadtone solution is valuable.  
> > > Harder to start but easy to print once set up.  
> > > 
> > > I did get Yarc to write a 6 color independent 
> > > manual channel driver option for their RIP 
> > > for the Spectratones before they kinda 
> > > dissapeared.  
> > > 
> > > Anyway if you want to do duotone 
> > > simulations, "just" get a neutral grayscale, 
> > > the adjust the color cast in curves in the 
> > > individual rgb channels.  It's direct, simple 
> > > but difficult to do well image to image.
> > > 
> > > I doubt there is an easier answer.  
> > > 
> > > Allen Maertz
> > > lincolninks.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Message: 4
> > >    Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 14:46:17 -0000
> > >    From: tyork@a...
> > > Subject: Duotone Workflows was Re: Tim 
> > > York: re:papers
> > > 
> > > Martin, 
> > > 
> > > As I mentioned I e-mailed View Camera but 
> > > they didn't know anything 
> > > about the article. I'm not sure where to go 
> > > now. I read Allen's 
> > > comment to you but don't have the book. Oh 
> > > well, C'est la vie.
> > > 
> > > Tim

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