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[Digital BW] Re: ......Epson 2000P -- UT2 B&W

2003-12-27 by richard_h95050

Hi Paul and Alex,

Thanks for your quick response re the 2000P and FS-E inks/curves. 
Alex and I have been corresponding about his work with the legacy FS-
E/2000P combination, and the examples he has shown me are very nice 
indeed.

On the MIS site, I see they put a "tenative" end-of-life date on the 
original FS/VM inksets:

"...The fade resistance of the Ultratones is so superior to any of 
our other inks, that we are compelled to start phasing out the older 
VM and FS inks. By the end of 2004 we hope everyone is converted to 
Ultratones."

Regarding the "legacy FS/FSN" formulations, as you suggest Paul, I'm 
sure that if the demand is there, MIS will meet it. That would make 
Alex happy! :>)

Otherwise, another section of the MIS site states:

"...We are working on making Ultratone inks to replace the FS and FSN 
inks. <snip>...This will be in four shades only for use in the 1160 
and 3000 printers. Once this is done, the older FS and FSN will be 
phased out." 

While there are going to be response curve differences between the UT 
and legacy based FS inks, it would also seem that an "FS-E" set could 
be mixed from the four shades that MIS is planning to keep in their 
line for the 1160 and 3000 printers. If MIS doesn't choose to do so, 
isn't that something we could do carefully in the "kitchen sink" to 
create the midtones that differentiate the FS-E formulations? Maybe 
add a bit of ink limiting to prevent flooding...

> If the 1280 carts fit the 2000P, it might be interesting to see 
what the UT2
> inks look like in it.

Both the 1280 carts and CIS will fit perfectly in the 2000P -- just 
takes a "chip-switch". As soon as I get a set of the UT-2's, I'd 
volunteer to give that combination a try to see how it looks. That 
would be a great solution, especially if we could make them work like 
the "EZ B&W" or with optional curves for the UT-2/1280. Lot's of 
2000P printers still out there looking for a renewed purpose ;>)

Thanks very much and Happy Holidays!

Richard
  



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Richard & Alex,
> 
> >Paul, are you working on any UT formulations and/or curves for the 
> >Epson 2000?
> 
> No.
> 
> >... Bulk ink availability would be fine...
> 
> There may be several mixes that would work OK in that, although old 
vm
> curves for the PC are all I ever wrote for it.
> 
> >If MIS does not plan to make a set of compatible inks, I will 
stock up on
> >the FSE. It works for me and my 2000P and have no need to change.
> 
> I don't think MIS will totally stop selling any of the inks as long 
as there
> is reasonable demand.  It will probably be in the "legacy" category.
> 
> I would think that it would be easy for MIS to make the UT-FSE inks 
in bulk.
> It's the carts that I suspect might more likely be dropped at some 
point.
> 
> If the 1280 carts fit the 2000P, it might be interesting to see 
what the UT2
> inks look like in it.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
>  ____________________________________
> 
>

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