On Saturday, January 3, 2004, at 02:45 AM, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com wrote: > There are 22 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Clog from hell > From: Tim Goodwin <tgvoz@...> > 2. How much Ink in a 2200 cartridge? > From: "Don" <elixirs4me@...> > 3. Re: Black Ink Problem Using MIS GP Ink > From: "chaofeng" <twohorses123@...> > 4. Re: Re: Black Ink Problem Using MIS GP Ink > From: "Editor P.O.V. Image Service" <editor@...> > 5. Re: How to get Gretag Eye-One Match to work w/ QTR? > From: Carl Schofield <scho@...> > 6. Re: Re: Black Ink Problem Using MIS GP Ink > From: "Editor P.O.V. Image Service" <editor@...> > 7. Re: Clog from hell > From: "jim hayes" <jimhayes@...> > 8. Re: Black Ink Problem Using MIS GP Ink > From: "chaofeng" <twohorses123@...> > 9. Re: How much Ink in a 2200 cartridge? > From: "John Vitollo" <jvlist@...> > 10. OT Again: (sorry Martin) Photoshop scratch disk usage? > From: "Steven Karafyllakis" <steve@...> > 11. Adjustment curves with Roark workflow- > From: "Steven Karafyllakis" <steve@stevekphoto.com> > 12. Re: doubled sided 5x7 coated watercolour paper? > From: Sam McCandless <samcc@...> > 13. RE: OT Again: (sorry Martin) Photoshop scratch disk usage? > From: "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@...> > 14. RE: How much Ink in a 2200 cartridge? > From: "Daniel Staver" <daniel@...> > 15. scanning and image size > From: "Joseph Robinson" <joseph@hintonrobinson.com> > 16. Re: Adjustment curves with Roark workflow- > From: "Chris Hargens" <chargens@...> > 17. RE: scanning and image size > From: "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@...> > 18. RE: scanning and image size > From: "ellery" <ellery@pacific.net.sg> > 19. Re: 1280 Pizza Wheel marks on Semigloss > From: "richard_h95050" <richardh@...> > 20. Re: Computer Mechanics - upgrading RAM with XP? > From: "Anthony G. Atkielski" <anthony@...> > 21. Re: OT Again: (sorry Martin) Photoshop scratch disk usage? > From: "Editor P.O.V. Image Service" <editor@p-o-v-image.com> > 22. Re: leaving eboni black when printing color > From: "Editor P.O.V. Image Service" <editor@...> > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 17:33:21 -0500 > From: Tim Goodwin <tgvoz@...> > Subject: Re: Clog from hell > > Never mind, I was able to find detailed instructions on this method at; > > http://home.att.net/~arwomack01/#ClogCleanning > > Thanks anyway > Tim > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 00:09:43 -0000 > From: "Don" <elixirs4me@...> > Subject: How much Ink in a 2200 cartridge? > > I've been to the Epson site and can't find out how many mls of ink are > actually in a 2200 cartridge. Can anybody help me out here or point > me to a xource that can? Thanks in advance... > > Ol' Don in Broken Arrow > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 00:14:44 -0000 > From: "chaofeng" <twohorses123@...> > Subject: Re: Black Ink Problem Using MIS GP Ink > > Thanks for sharing your experience. Do you use the cartridge ink or > the CFS ink? MIS has one web page saying the cartridge black ink is > universal black, but another web page saying it's black for matte > only. Obviously if you order CFS ink, there are clear labels to tell > you if the black is PK (Photo Black), or MK (Universal Black) or K > (Matte Eboni Black). > > Don't know if they send me the wrong fill of the black in the > cartridge. > > chao > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Edward Wiseman" > <pahts@c...> wrote: >> I'm using the same setup as yours with the "universal black", and > I'm very happy with the results..especially with Epson's"matte" > or "lustre" finished papers..I'm sure you would have much better > results on "glossy" with thier "PK" type black, but you would lose > lots of D-Max on your Matte finished papers..The same issues exist > with Epson's own "Ultrachrome", but they don't even offer > a "universal" black.....I guess you can't have your "K"ake and eat it > too!! >> >> Eddie Wiseman >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: chaofeng >> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 3:39 PM >> Subject: [Digital BW] Black Ink Problem Using MIS GP Ink >> >> >> I found people in this group are very knowledgeable on MIS > products. >> So I'd like to ask your advice on the problem I experienced when > use >> MIS GP black ink. I ordered the GP ink cartridge for my epson > 1280 >> recently. I got good results on matt paper but had bad results > when >> printing on glossy paper (epson premium glossy, luster and > permajet >> oyster paper). On those glossy-based prints, when I tilt the > print, I >> can see the reflection of the black portions are so odd that they >> dont' seem to be part of the print. In other words, all other > colors >> are melted naturally into the paper but the black portions are > like >> something that are separately patched on and not the integral to > the >> whole print. I was wondering if this is so called "solarizing >> effect". Any of you have used MIS GP inks? What are your >> experiences, particularly for printing on glossy paper? MIS > claims >> that the black ink in the cartridge is Universal Black that works > on >> both glossy and matte. But my result is clearly unsatisfactory. >> Should I use their Photo Black (PK) instead? If so, will I have > good >> results for matte printing? >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> >> >> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint >> >> If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting this same page. >> >> Please follow these basic guidelines: >> - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier > messages to keep them short. >> - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > from the membership without notice. >> - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of > digital B&W printing. 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Obviously if you order CFS ink, there are clear labels to tell >> you if the black is PK (Photo Black), or MK (Universal Black) or K >> (Matte Eboni Black). >> >> Don't know if they send me the wrong fill of the black in the >> cartridge. >> >> > > Yes, there are three different MIS GP Black Inks.. > > K - Eboni Matte Black - Pure Pigment - Bronzing on Glossy/RC Papers - > Meant for Matte Paper ONLY > > PK -Photo Black - Pure Pigment - Significantly Reduced dMax on Matte > Papers - Meant for Glossy/Luster Papers ONLY > > MK - Universal Black - Hybrid dye & Pigment - Works on Glossy OR Matte > Papers _ Has reduced printlife by virtue of the dye component > > 1280 Cartridges (ARC-T007-UTK > <http://www.inksupply.com/additem.cfm?itemid=ARC-T007-UTK> or > ARC-T007-UPK <http://www.inksupply.com/additem.cfm?itemid=ARC-T007-UPK> > ) are by default, unless special ordered, filled with the Eboni Matte > Black or the Photo Black. The "U" in the product designation is NOT an > indication that this is a Universal Black Cartridge.. A Universal > Black > cartridge would be designated "ARC-T007-UMK" > > If you go to the MIS page at: > <http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?source=html/ultratone.html> > > and click on the 1280 Black cartridges, you will see that they are > pre-filled with either the Eboni Matte Black or the Photo Black.. A > Universal Black Cartridge for the 1280 would be a special order item.. > > > > Keith Krebs > > "Just some guy," caretaker of the Multiverse's largest EPSON printer > User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo > Publications), at: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSON_Printers/ > and the Multiverse's largest Canon printer User Community at: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Canon-printers > "For the rest of you out there, the secret is to bang the rocks > together > guys" > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 19:48:30 -0500 > From: Carl Schofield <scho@...> > Subject: Re: How to get Gretag Eye-One Match to work w/ QTR? > > i1 Match will not work. You need to download MeasureTool (part of the > ProfileMaker Pro package) from the GM site (see link in documentation). > > On Friday, January 2, 2004, at 04:28 PM, J Michael Sullivan wrote: > >> Dear List, >> >> Anyone know if "Eye-One Match" can be made to work with the 21-step >> wedges that >> come supplied with QTR 2.0 beta 9? >> >> Note that Eye-One Match is different than the Gretag "Measure Tool" >> mentioned in >> the documentation >> >> The reason I ask is that "Match" does not see the 21-step wedge files >> supplied with >> QTR. >> >> MJS >> >> >> >> >> >> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other >> resources as they are often being updated. >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint >> >> If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish >> to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting >> this same page. >> >> Please follow these basic guidelines: >> - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to >> keep them short. >> - Good manners are required at all time. 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Image Service" <editor@p-o-v-image.com> > Subject: Re: Re: Black Ink Problem Using MIS GP Ink > > The standard MIS GP black for 1270/1280 cartridges was, AFAIK, the > same > as the Eboni Black.. although, I do see where on another page > <http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?source=html/arcgpcarts.html> they > say the standard black with the GP Inks is the Universal Matte Black.. > aggghghh! > > They really need to standardize the part numbers to eliminate > confusion.. You're not the ONLY one going through this, my head is > beginning to hurt whenever I start ordering pre-filled black > cartridges.. They even say on the GP page to pay close attention to the > lettering of the black cartridges, but then go on to not use that > lettering system for the pre-filled 1280 series GP cartridges... > sheesh! > > I would really prefer that they simply use the same part number and > lettering system for all the UT/GP blacks.. > > In any case, the photo black cartridges should work best on > Glossy/Luster papers.. > > In any event, we now see what Paul was indicating about them needing to > consolidate offerings and (IMHO) standardize the product SKU numbers.. > > You may well have gotten Universal Black in the cartridges, although > the > bronzing would indicate elsewise. The best thing is to call MIS > directly and sort this all out.. > > I've also got some MIS GP K cartridges ready to go.. It'll be > interesting to see which black they are, as I already have the UT K > and PK. > > > Keith Krebs > > "Just some guy," caretaker of the Multiverse's largest EPSON printer > User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo > Publications), at: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSON_Printers/ > and the Multiverse's largest Canon printer User Community at: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Canon-printers > "For the rest of you out there, the secret is to bang the rocks > together > guys" > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 01:19:51 -0000 > From: "jim hayes" <jimhayes@...m> > Subject: Re: Clog from hell > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, ritab19106@a... > wrote: >> Jim -- >> >> I was interested in your suggestions, since I have suffered quite a >> few >> "clogs from hell." I have not tried your suggestion #1 (putting > windex on parking >> pad) and was wondering if you would elaborate on it. I assume you > press the >> cartridge changing button to move the head to the left, thus giving > you access >> to the parking pad? > > Yes. > > Do you then inject windex with a syringe or do you place >> a windex-soaked towel on the pad? > > Pull the stem out of the squirt trigger of the bottle of windex. Put > your finger over one end. Dip the other end in the windex bottle. > Release and press your finger over the end until the end dipped in the > windex draws up a column 3/8 inch to 1/2 inch, which you hold in place > with your finger on other end. > > Transfer the end of the stem to the parking pad and let it drop across > the pad a drop at a time, you should get roughly 3-5 drops. Discard > any remainder in the column in stem. Try not to drop any outside the > pad. > > I never used eyedroppers but they might work too. > > If you can get some FOAM swabs (not cotton)from Radio Shack you can > moisten them with windex and swab off the rubber perimeter of the pad > very lightly, so as not to dislodge it. This is extra credit. > > The pad should not be soaked so it is swimming in windex. Just a few > drops to wet it. Foam swabs can also remove excess windex- just touch > the pad with a dry swab. Return the carriage and turn the off button. > Let it sit 6-12 hours. > > > >> >> Also, I have become very sparing in the running of cleaning cycles > because of >> my fear of approaching the maximum allowable number before the > printer has a >> nervous breakdown and requires pad replacement. I know one can > reset the >> counter, but I fear that I might end up with saturated pads spilling > ink all over >> my desk. Do you have any insights about the wisdom of that strategy > as well? > > > I heard of only one case where the printer, an 1160, turned off for > this reason. Paul Roark, after many, many cart changes/ cleanings/ ink > experiments once told me his 1160 shut down. I think he simply had it > reset, I'm not sure. I seem to recall he had lots of use on it... > > The pad getting saturated stories I have heard come from people using > CIS/CFS (bulk ink feeders) who have set the height of the bottles > improperly, and discover that overnight 16 oz of ink has drained into > their printers!! > > There may be other stories but I haven't been watching this group as > much lately. > > I suppose it could happen with heavy usage. But I wouldn't worry about > it too much, IMHO. > > Jim Hayes > > >> >> Thanks very much. >> >> Rita Bernstein >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 01:59:42 -0000 > From: "chaofeng" <twohorses123@...> > Subject: Re: Black Ink Problem Using MIS GP Ink > > While MIS is still enjoying the long holidays (they are closed until > Jan. 5), there are people like you trying to help me for MIS > problems. Great thanks! > > I'll call MIS on Monday to sort this puzzle out. If my cartridge is > Universal Black, then my last hope is PK and I hope they have a > cartridge version for me to try before I commite to the CFS. > > Will let you know what I find out. > > Thanks again. > > chao > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Editor P.O.V. > Image Service" <editor@p...> wrote: >> The standard MIS GP black for 1270/1280 cartridges was, AFAIK, the > same >> as the Eboni Black.. although, I do see where on another page >> <http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?source=html/arcgpcarts.html> > they >> say the standard black with the GP Inks is the Universal Matte > Black.. >> aggghghh! >> >> They really need to standardize the part numbers to eliminate >> confusion.. You're not the ONLY one going through this, my head is >> beginning to hurt whenever I start ordering pre-filled black >> cartridges.. They even say on the GP page to pay close attention to > the >> lettering of the black cartridges, but then go on to not use that >> lettering system for the pre-filled 1280 series GP cartridges... > sheesh! >> >> I would really prefer that they simply use the same part number and >> lettering system for all the UT/GP blacks.. >> >> In any case, the photo black cartridges should work best on >> Glossy/Luster papers.. >> >> In any event, we now see what Paul was indicating about them > needing to >> consolidate offerings and (IMHO) standardize the product SKU > numbers.. >> >> You may well have gotten Universal Black in the cartridges, > although the >> bronzing would indicate elsewise. The best thing is to call MIS >> directly and sort this all out.. >> >> I've also got some MIS GP K cartridges ready to go.. It'll be >> interesting to see which black they are, as I already have the UT K > and PK. >> >> >> Keith Krebs >> >> "Just some guy," caretaker of the Multiverse's largest EPSON > printer >> User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo >> Publications), at: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSON_Printers/ >> and the Multiverse's largest Canon printer User Community at: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Canon-printers >> "For the rest of you out there, the secret is to bang the rocks > together >> guys" > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 03:29:36 -0000 > From: "John Vitollo" <jvlist@...> > Subject: Re: How much Ink in a 2200 cartridge? > > "Don" wrote: >> I've been to the Epson site and can't find out how many mls of ink are >> actually in a 2200 cartridge. > > This page might tell you: > > http://www.jondokken.com/Epson2200/a2200Epson.htm > > Or this one: > > http://www.anestoday.com/epson2200/intro.htm > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 04:27:53 -0000 > From: "Steven Karafyllakis" <steve@...> > Subject: OT Again: (sorry Martin) Photoshop scratch disk usage? > > Both PS 7 and CS seem unwilling to use more than 4G of scratch disk; > I started with 8G on this installation, split it into two 4G and > still I get "scratch disks full" notices when only one partition > reaches its limit. Any others having this problem? Any solutions? > > Thanks > > Steve Karafyllakis > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 04:47:58 -0000 > From: "Steven Karafyllakis" <steve@...> > Subject: Adjustment curves with Roark workflow- > > I just (after a year of on-off use) got around to testing wether > placing an adjustment curve above or below Paul's partition curves > makes a difference. Did someone mention this and I missed it > completely? It makes a huge difference, at least on this test/image! > Placing the adj. below the part. curve produced lower contrast, > posterization, and a very obvious blue shift in the midtones (Ultra- > tone VM inks). The very same curve above the partition curves > produced what I expected: neutral tone, good contrast, a smooth > ramp. As they say... > > Steve Karafyllakis > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 12 > Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 20:37:32 -0800 > From: Sam McCandless <samcc@...> > Subject: Re: doubled sided 5x7 coated watercolour paper? > > At 11:06 AM -0700 1/2/04, Tim Atherton wrote: >> Does anyone know of anyone doing one of the coated watercolour >> papers pre-cut to 5x7? > > I did some of the two-sided Eclipse in that size in my 1160s, Tim, > but cut it down myself. Not sure that's what you meant, nor that > Eclipse is considered to be a watercolor paper. In any case, it fed > well, printed nicely on both sides, and did better than I'd hoped in > the the Christmas mail when I used it as a postcard. > -- > Sam > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 13 > Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 22:45:54 -0800 > From: "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@...> > Subject: RE: OT Again: (sorry Martin) Photoshop scratch disk usage? > >> From: Steven Karafyllakis [mailto:steve@...] >> >> Both PS 7 and CS seem unwilling to use more than 4G of scratch disk; >> I started with 8G on this installation, split it into two 4G and >> still I get "scratch disks full" notices when only one partition >> reaches its limit. Any others having this problem? Any solutions? > > I suspect the limit is actually 2GB per file, since on Windows > applications > have to use a whole different API to do random access on files larger > than > that size--and weren't able to do so at all prior to (I think) Windows > 2000. > > -- > > Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco > Paul mailto:pderocco@... > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 14 > Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 08:04:53 +0100 > From: "Daniel Staver" <daniel@...> > Subject: RE: How much Ink in a 2200 cartridge? > >> I've been to the Epson site and can't find out how many mls >> of ink are actually in a 2200 cartridge. Can anybody help me >> out here or point me to a xource that can? Thanks in advance... > > I can refill an empty cartridge with exactly 12ml of ink, then it > weighs > as much as a brand new cartridge. I guess this means it can hold about > 15ml since there's always some ink left when it reads empty. > > -- > Daniel Staver > http://daniel.staver.no > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 15 > Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 04:54:40 -0000 > From: "Joseph Robinson" <joseph@...> > Subject: scanning and image size > > Hi, > > I'm new to the forum and have just started scanning some of my 35mm > black and white images (taken on Kodak T400CN). I like to print > final results at 11" x 14". The images so far show > some "posterization" in them. I'm not sure of the solution, but I > think that part of my problem could be in scanning... > > Do people generally scan the images at the highest resolution the > scanner supports with the dimensions of the image the size of the > negative? Or is it better to scan at an "appropriate" resolution > and have the image dimensions be 11" x 14"? > > I've been using the latter approach, scanning at 650dpi, setting the > image size at 11" x 14" and printing at 1440 dpi. > > I hope this isn't too silly of a question and I've given enough > information for a response... > > (Technical details: Microtek ArtixScan 4000t scanner, LaserSoft > Silverfast SE software, Epson 2200 printer.) > > Joseph > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 16 > Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 07:24:59 -0000 > From: "Chris Hargens" <chargens@...> > Subject: Re: Adjustment curves with Roark workflow- > > Two questions: 1) What kind of adjustment curves? 2) What you do you > mean by "below" and "above"? > Chris Hargens > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven > Karafyllakis" <steve@s...> wrote: >> I just (after a year of on-off use) got around to testing wether >> placing an adjustment curve above or below Paul's partition curves >> makes a difference. Did someone mention this and I missed it >> completely? It makes a huge difference, at least on this > test/image! >> Placing the adj. below the part. curve produced lower contrast, >> posterization, and a very obvious blue shift in the midtones (Ultra- >> tone VM inks). The very same curve above the partition curves >> produced what I expected: neutral tone, good contrast, a smooth >> ramp. As they say... >> >> Steve Karafyllakis > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 17 > Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 23:38:34 -0800 > From: "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@...> > Subject: RE: scanning and image size > >> From: Joseph Robinson [mailto:joseph@hintonrobinson.com] >> >> I'm new to the forum and have just started scanning some of my 35mm >> black and white images (taken on Kodak T400CN). I like to print >> final results at 11" x 14". The images so far show >> some "posterization" in them. I'm not sure of the solution, but I >> think that part of my problem could be in scanning... >> >> Do people generally scan the images at the highest resolution the >> scanner supports with the dimensions of the image the size of the >> negative? Or is it better to scan at an "appropriate" resolution >> and have the image dimensions be 11" x 14"? >> >> I've been using the latter approach, scanning at 650dpi, setting the >> image size at 11" x 14" and printing at 1440 dpi. > > Forget about inches, except when it's time to print. Scan at the > natural > resolution of the scanner, which I believe is 4000ppi. (That's not a > huge > number of pixels when the piece of film is only 1x1.5") Also, with the > 2200 > you should print at 2880, to avoid microbanding in the print. > > -- > > Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco > Paul mailto:pderocco@... > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 18 > Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 03:36:40 +0800 > From: "ellery" <ellery@...> > Subject: RE: scanning and image size > > I would suggest scan in at the maximum optical resolution which in > this case > is 4000dpi. For print purposes you would need a sent to printer file of > pixel dimension say 270 to 300 dpi multiple the length or breath in > inches. > Despite what has been said in this and other forums there is a > difference in > print quality when my printing files hit say 450dpi - from output on > an > Epson EX (the printing time automatically become much longer). > > > Suggest you scan and save that file as the original master and do all > work > from copies of that - preserve the master unchange at all costs. > Lasersoft > AI should help you navigate thru the scaning maze with a lot more ease > that > if you had to do it all manually for a newbie. > > Work in PhotoShop and when you are done you can either use the resize > the > image to either restrict the image to the print size (with the > resample off) > and use what ever dpi is there. Or you could set the dpi to say 300 > and use > resample on and set size to 11 x14 inches. Question is would you want > to > print in RGB or as a greyscale file - answer much depends on your > tastes and > view light conditions. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph Robinson [mailto:joseph@...] > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 12:55 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] scanning and image size > > > Hi, > > I'm new to the forum and have just started scanning some of my 35mm > black and white images (taken on Kodak T400CN). I like to print > final results at 11" x 14". The images so far show > some "posterization" in them. I'm not sure of the solution, but I > think that part of my problem could be in scanning... > > Do people generally scan the images at the highest resolution the > scanner supports with the dimensions of the image the size of the > negative? Or is it better to scan at an "appropriate" resolution > and have the image dimensions be 11" x 14"? > > I've been using the latter approach, scanning at 650dpi, setting the > image size at 11" x 14" and printing at 1440 dpi. > > I hope this isn't too silly of a question and I've given enough > information for a response... > > (Technical details: Microtek ArtixScan 4000t scanner, LaserSoft > Silverfast SE software, Epson 2200 printer.) > > Joseph > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this > same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed > from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > Owner and > Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files > section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT > YAHOO! 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To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 19 > Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 08:24:08 -0000 > From: "richard_h95050" <richardh@...> > Subject: Re: 1280 Pizza Wheel marks on Semigloss > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" > <paul.roark@v...> wrote: >> I followed the Inkjetart instructions for removing the pizza > wheels, and the >> printer seems to work fine. The wheel marks are gone. >> >> Paul >> www.PaulRoark.com >> ___________________________ > > Hi Paul, > > I'm waiting for shipment of my UT-2 bulk inks when MIS re-opens > Monday. In the interim, I've been doing some experimentation with the > existing UT/1280 inks using Photo Black and a few Epson semigloss and > other "gloss" papers. > > I hit the Pizza Wheel problem right away, and found I had to remove > them also. Since you are doing more work with the "gloss" papers, I > was wondering if you might have any suggestions or curves for Epson > Gloss (semi or lustre) papers and the UT/UT-2 inkset that you're > ready to share. Didn't find anything on the MIS site, and only a > mention of using Ilford Smooth Pearl. > > I looked at Dirk's pages, and his instructions are fairly straight- > forward but I was looking for some starting profiles with the PK inks > on any of the Epson gloss papers. > > As always, thanks for your generous advice, Paul. > > Richard > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 20 > Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 09:26:03 +0100 > From: "Anthony G. Atkielski" <anthony@...> > Subject: Re: Computer Mechanics - upgrading RAM with XP? > > Lyons Cox writes: > >> Since the 512 RAM was a limitation of Win98 ... > > I don't recall Win98 being limited to 512 MB, although it handled large > amounts of RAM quite poorly. > >> ... I was wondering if people were upgrading their >> RAM at the same time? > > You can never have too much RAM, and modern bloatware requires more and > more of it to accomplish the same things. > >> I've stuck other equipment into the box but haven't done a RAM >> upgrade yet >> and was wondering if its a simple? > > Usually it's just a matter of opening the box and plugging in some new > memory (with the computer off). Then you turn things back on and > you're > in business. > >> I'd like to go from 512 to 1G. Suggestions? > > Buy some memory and plug it in. Look at the memory you have installed, > first, though. To get to the maximum on a machine, you'll have to > install the largest memory modules you can, and if smaller modules were > installed at the factory, you'll have to unplug those and plug in new > ones to reach the configuration limit. > > In any case, many PCs won't handle more than 1.5 GB from a hardware > standpoint, and Windows XP can't go past 2 GB, I think. The 32-bit > architecture for the hardware can't directly support more than 4 GB. > All of this is more than enough for most purposes, but when you edit > images, you can never have enough RAM. I have the maximum of 1.5 GB > installed on my machine, and it is still just barely enough to load MF > scans. If I went to a higher resolution scanner or a larger film > format, I'd be unable to process scans at all, since neither the OS nor > the hardware will configure enough memory to do it. > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 21 > Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 04:09:16 -0500 > From: "Editor P.O.V. Image Service" <editor@...> > Subject: Re: OT Again: (sorry Martin) Photoshop scratch disk usage? > > Paul D. DeRocco wrote: > >>> From: Steven Karafyllakis [mailto:steve@...] >>> >>> Both PS 7 and CS seem unwilling to use more than 4G of scratch disk; >>> I started with 8G on this installation, split it into two 4G and >>> still I get "scratch disks full" notices when only one partition >>> reaches its limit. Any others having this problem? Any solutions? >>> >>> > I'm not having it, see below... what format are the partitions in, and > are they SCRATCH file ONLY disks? Meaning do they have other files on > them? > >> I suspect the limit is actually 2GB per file, since on Windows >> applications >> have to use a whole different API to do random access on files larger >> than >> that size--and weren't able to do so at all prior to (I think) >> Windows 2000. >> >> >> > Take a 16 bit TIFF file in CS.. Enlarge it to 20,000 x 30,000 > pixels... > > Then copy the background layer to another layer.. > > On my machine that's almost an 8gB file in memory.. AND it blows both > 2gB and 4gB scratch file limits by, if you add up the scratch files > created on multiple disks. Even the individual files go beyond 2gB > each.. > > > OTOH, In PS 7 if you do the same in 8 bit, then make some layers until > you show a similarly large file size in Pshop.. You'll see that each > individual scratch file IS limited to 2gB in size.. That's part of the > reason for the limit of PShop file sizes (and that was tied to some OS > limitations) through PShop 7, that was changed in PShop CS... However, > if you add up the total size of all the individual scratch files, you > can blow by the any supposed 4 gB total scratch file size limit.. > . > > 1) As for a 2gB limit: > > The reason Adobe has used it's own scratch file system has been to > avoid > precisely the RAM size limitations. But, of course, Under XP you can > put multiple paging files together to equal more than even 4gB. > > > 2) As for a potential 4 gB limit. > > That's only a per file limit (an even then applicable only to non NTFS > drives). It's part of why several scratch disks can be defined.. Unless > you use NTFS you've got a 4 gB limit per file.. Anyone who does any > serious video editing or Movie DVD decrypting and backup on a WinTel > knows of that limit.. > > However, there also was, up through Windows 2000, a 4gB per page file > limit. See info on that at: > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=237740 > > > > Keith Krebs > > "Just some guy," caretaker of the Multiverse's largest EPSON printer > User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo > Publications), at: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSON_Printers/ > and the Multiverse's largest Canon printer User Community at: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Canon-printers > "For the rest of you out there, the secret is to bang the rocks > together > guys" > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 22 > Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 04:34:03 -0500 > From: "Editor P.O.V. Image Service" <editor@...> > Subject: Re: leaving eboni black when printing color > > jerdiakiw wrote: > >> Does it make any difference if I leave eboni or matte black when >> printing color? >> jerry >> >> > > Eboni is the MIS Matte Black.. > > Are you asking if it's ok to leave Eboni in a "2200/2100" when printing > color? > > Are you using the MIS GP's or the UC inkset for color? > > A bit more specificity would be helpful.. > > > Keith Krebs > > "Just some guy," caretaker of the Multiverse's largest EPSON printer > User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo > Publications), at: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSON_Printers/ > and the Multiverse's largest Canon printer User Community at: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Canon-printers > "For the rest of you out there, the secret is to bang the rocks > together > guys" > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. 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Re: [Digital BW] Digest Number 2005
2004-01-03 by Levin Andy