Thank you to all for the informative replies. --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Anthony G. Atkielski" <anthony@a...> wrote: > David Sinai writes: > > > I was curious to see if the histogram of this file would be > > different if the file was converted to 8 bit. After converting the > > file to 8 bit, I reviewed the histogram and so no changes. > > The histogram only shows data with 256 levels, so you can't see any > difference between 8-bit and 16-bit modes with the histogram. To show > the 16-bit data, you'd need a histogram 65,536 pixels wide, which > obviously is not practical. In 16-bit mode, every pixel you see > horizontally in the histogram is actually the sum of 256 different > levels (256 x 256 = 65,536 levels). > > > Shouldn't there be a different histogram once the file is converted > > to 8 bit? > > It would be nice, but as explained above, it wouldn't fit on the screen. > > > Going from 16 bit to 8 bit means that the tonal range has > > been reduced, correct? > > Yes. > > > More importantly, I could not detect any visible differences on the > > screen when the image was in 8 bit vs. 16 bit. > > In black and white, very few monitors can show any difference. And you > must be in at least a 32-bit color mode to even be able to hold any > difference in display memory (and that's still smaller than the 48- bit > mode you'd need to show full 16-bit images). > > > I decided to work with the 8 bit file as there are more PS > > features available this way. > > But there is also less data. > > The advantage to 16-bit mode is that you have far more headroom for > modifications. For example, if you need to drastically change the > curves in the image, you can do so in 16-bit mode with almost no loss of > quality, whereas you'll get serious posterization in 8-bit mode, > particularly after multiple operations, since the effect is cumulative. > > > Should there be any discernable tonality differences on a print > > created with a 16 bit file vs. 8 bit when printing with an Epson > > 2200 using the BO method? > > No. The advantage to 16-bit is in the extra data you have for > manipulation. You don't need to stay in 16-bit mode once you are > finished retouching and adjusting the image, and you can store it in > 8-bit mode if you want (just remember, once you move it to 8-bit mode, > you won't have as much data if you ever decide to modify it again). > > > I printed the 8 bit and the 16 bit file and saw no differences. Is > > this what you would expect? > > Yes. > > > Everything I've read, says to stick with 16 bit. > > As long as you are adjusting or retouching the image and/or you expect > to do so in the future, 16-bit is better than 8-bit. For actually > printing the image and archiving it, though, it doesn't matter, since no > display or print device can really resolve more than 256 levels, anyway. > > > Does the rule "Stay in 16 bit" apply when printing BO on Epson 2200? > > No. It doesn't apply for any kind of printer or display. None of them > can come close to resolving 65,536 different gray levels.
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Re: [Digital BW] 16 Bit vs. 8 Bit for BO
2004-01-03 by David Sinai
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