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Re: Good B/W prints with epson 2100 / 2200 not possible? I'll bui an Hp 7960...

2004-01-06 by Mark Hahn

A 2200 + ImagePrint will give you a near perfect black to gray 
gradient compared to a pretty poor one from my 1160, MIS VM and Roark 
curves... very impressive.

mark

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Glenn Mitchell" 
<gmitchel850@y...> wrote:
> The only paper I had good luck with BO printing on the Epson 2200 
was 
> the lighter weight Arches Infinity Smooth paper. Otherwise, I did 
not 
> like BO printing.
> 
> I made curves in PS to apply as the final step before printing that 
> removed the mossy cast.
> 
> I found it easier and more reliable to bite the bullet and buy 
> ImagePrint Lite. It works great. Absolutely neutral B&W prints 
> (unless you want to add a cast).
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Mitch
> 
> 
> --- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "andreamorphine" 
> <andreamorphine@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > I tried so many ways to obtain a neutral b/w with my new epson, 
but 
> > nothing is really good, also with black ink only.
> > Now, I tried:
> > 
> > 1. archival matte with matte black ink:
> > 
> > - grey balancer (printer color managment in photoshop printer 
> > profile, colors control - epson - in printer driver), quite, not 
at 
> > all, neutral in daylight (when I worked the first time with GB of 
> > course), but with a hard metamerism, prints become magenta under 
> > commune light of the evening). I really don't like this
> > changment!
> > - black ink only (same as source or printer color managment in 
> > photoshop printer profile), always brownish prints, also with the 
> > black density sets at +20%. No good!
> > - epson 2100 archival matte_mk (ICM) and no color adjusyment in 
> > printer driver, obtaining a greenish tone 
> > - default ICM epson 2200 or colormatch rgb in PS printer profile 
> and 
> > no color adjustment or color controls in printer driver, always 
> > greenish tones.
> > 
> > of course I completely turn off grey balancer every time don't 
want 
> > to use it
> > 
> > 2. premium semi-gloss paper (epson or ilford) with photo black 
ink:
> > 
> > - with color inks always greenish tones
> > -with black ink only, quite good prints, except for a high level 
of 
> > bronzing and a very very light greenish dominant (also with BO!)
> > 
> > I read a lot of pages on the web to obtain pure bw prints, but 
now 
> I 
> > think it's really impossibile, maybe with a RIP software, but I 
> > still don't have money for it.
> > I'm sorry with the other owners of 2100 (2200 in U.S), but 
> > think I will sell this printer and buy the HP 7960 that have pure 
> BW 
> > prints.
> > I'm very tired to waste ink and paper!
> > 
> > do you have other ideas?
> > 
> > greetins and compliments to this interesting group,
> > Andrea

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