Digital BW, The Print

Ok, that isn't a typical "home scanner" :)  (which is what I 
referenced somewhere in the thread)

mark

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Austin 
Franklin" <darkroom@i...> wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> 
> I don't do anything special, but I do use a Leaf 45 film 
scanner...and it is
> the only scanner I know that scans B&W as B&W, not as RGB.  This 
may account
> for the exceptional B&W scans I get...and as I've said, it works 
superbly
> with my D-76 1:1 and Tri-X/Plus-X.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Austin
> 
> > Tri-X and D-76 1:1 is my personal favorite for traditional
> > processing, has been for years, but you suggest that you do 
something
> > special to reduce the grain quantization in the digital 
processing,
> > what is it?  *I* am not happy with how it scans/enlarges from 35mm
> > negatives.
> >
> > mark
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Austin
> > Franklin" <darkroom@i...> wrote:
> > > Getting good B&W negatives is not only based on the film choice,
> > but the
> > > developer and development dilution and development time.  I
> > strongly suggest
> > > trying D-76 1:1 for Tri-X (and Plus-X).
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Austin
> > >
> > > > since no home scanner can accurately capture the actual 
visible
> > grain
> > > > of Tri-X you are stuck trying to process around this 
failure...
> > you
> > > > may be able to do this to your satisfaction, but I have not, 
nor
> > have
> > > > I seen anyone else's work that satisfies me... though I 
haven't
> > seen
> > > > your work of course.  the scanner scans across the grain and
> > > > quantizes the image as it should, but that does not mean that 
the
> > > > results are pleasing.  With finer grained films the images 
already
> > > > look smooth and the averaging that occurs during a scan just
> > > > maintains the smoother look.  For large format work, the
> > quantization
> > > > of Tri-X is not so much an issue because, even though it 
looks bad
> > > > when you zoom in, you don't have to enlarge it as much and it 
is
> > left
> > > > in the sub-visible realm.
> > > >
> > > > how do you process out the obvious grain quantization from 
your
> > Tri-X
> > > > scans?
> > > >
> > > > mark
> > > >
> > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Anthony 
G.
> > > > Atkielski" <anthony@a...> wrote:
> > > > > Mark Hahn writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I've yet to see anyone's 35mm Tri-X scanned really well on
> > > > > > any home scanner though... which is a shame, because I 
love
> > > > > > Tri-X ...
> > > > >
> > > > > Tri-X can easily be scanned from the scanner's standpoint, 
but
> > get
> > > > the
> > > > > results you want requires a lot of tweaking and practice.