Digital BW, The Print

Hi Mark,

Er, why not?  You can buy a near mint one these days for $1000...yeah, it's
slow for color, but this IS a B&W list, now isn't it ;-)

Regards,

Austin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Hahn [mailto:markhahn2000@...]
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 10:03 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Good camera for B&W
>
>
> Ok, that isn't a typical "home scanner" :)  (which is what I
> referenced somewhere in the thread)
>
> mark
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Austin
> Franklin" <darkroom@i...> wrote:
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > I don't do anything special, but I do use a Leaf 45 film
> scanner...and it is
> > the only scanner I know that scans B&W as B&W, not as RGB.  This
> may account
> > for the exceptional B&W scans I get...and as I've said, it works
> superbly
> > with my D-76 1:1 and Tri-X/Plus-X.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Austin
> >
> > > Tri-X and D-76 1:1 is my personal favorite for traditional
> > > processing, has been for years, but you suggest that you do
> something
> > > special to reduce the grain quantization in the digital
> processing,
> > > what is it?  *I* am not happy with how it scans/enlarges from 35mm
> > > negatives.
> > >
> > > mark
> > >
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Austin
> > > Franklin" <darkroom@i...> wrote:
> > > > Getting good B&W negatives is not only based on the film choice,
> > > but the
> > > > developer and development dilution and development time.  I
> > > strongly suggest
> > > > trying D-76 1:1 for Tri-X (and Plus-X).
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Austin
> > > >
> > > > > since no home scanner can accurately capture the actual
> visible
> > > grain
> > > > > of Tri-X you are stuck trying to process around this
> failure...
> > > you
> > > > > may be able to do this to your satisfaction, but I have not,
> nor
> > > have
> > > > > I seen anyone else's work that satisfies me... though I
> haven't
> > > seen
> > > > > your work of course.  the scanner scans across the grain and
> > > > > quantizes the image as it should, but that does not mean that
> the
> > > > > results are pleasing.  With finer grained films the images
> already
> > > > > look smooth and the averaging that occurs during a scan just
> > > > > maintains the smoother look.  For large format work, the
> > > quantization
> > > > > of Tri-X is not so much an issue because, even though it
> looks bad
> > > > > when you zoom in, you don't have to enlarge it as much and it
> is
> > > left
> > > > > in the sub-visible realm.
> > > > >
> > > > > how do you process out the obvious grain quantization from
> your
> > > Tri-X
> > > > > scans?
> > > > >
> > > > > mark
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Anthony
> G.
> > > > > Atkielski" <anthony@a...> wrote:
> > > > > > Mark Hahn writes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've yet to see anyone's 35mm Tri-X scanned really well on
> > > > > > > any home scanner though... which is a shame, because I
> love
> > > > > > > Tri-X ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tri-X can easily be scanned from the scanner's standpoint,
> but
> > > get
> > > > > the
> > > > > > results you want requires a lot of tweaking and practice.
>
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