Digital BW, The Print

Paul,
Have you formed an opinion about ink usage for B/W with your
7660? Do you have an impression about how consumable expenses
with the HP might compare to your Epson inkjets?

In the info I've found on the web, ink cost gets mentioned
fairly often with regards to the 7660/7960. I get the sense though,
that those objections may be coming from folks who may not
have much experience printing photos on inkjets.

Doing color on my 1270 I've found the cost for Epson
ink and paper to be reasonably tolerable. Doing B/W on
my 1160 I've wasted a fair amount of ink and paper clearing
clogs and doing various types of tests. The cost of fussing
with B/W has been priceless.

Cheers,
JimD


At 06:48 AM 1/15/2004, Paul wrote:
>--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jim"
><ho_yeah@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Check out the Yahoo HP-inkjet group. You may find some info there.
> >
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, JimD
> > <rasterdogs@c...> wrote:
> > > I just discovered Mike Johnston's article about these printers
> > > and they perform doing black and white at:
> > >
> > > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-03-14-12.shtml
> > >
> > > Do other in this forum have any experience, knowledge, or pinions
> > about
> > > these HP printers used for black and white printing?
> >
>
>Having read Mike Johnston's article I promptly went out and bought a
>HP 7660 (cheaper version of 7960) and have to say it was a great buy
>as the quality of my black & white prints are now similar to what I
>can achieve in the darkroom.
>
>I started my photographic career as a b&w printer and have never been
>happy with inkjet printing for b&w until now. I have used an Epson
>1200 and 1160 both with MIS quad (or hextone in the 1200) inks for
>some time. The results on all types of matte paper look too flat for
>my taste, althought at A3 size hanging in a frame it's not bad.
>
>I only have the 7660 a week and have run alot of tests with a variety
>of paper types. The recommended paper, HP premium photo glossy has
>been discontinued in Australia (where I live) and it's replacement is
>HP Colourfast Glossy. There is no matte version. That paper has a
>slightly cool look (the paper is a slightly off white colour)when
>printed. Epson's premium semi gloss comes out very warm indeed. My
>preference is Tetenal semi matte. It has a slighly warm appearance
>when placed beside the HP paper and on its own looks just right to
>me. I guess it's a subjective thing anyway. My preference has always
>been a matte look, but not flat, for my black and white prints and
>this printer does a stunning job.
>
>Of course it's not all perfect. Size is limited to A4, ink cartridges
>(Grey No 59) are $30 a pop, no refills available yet, but hopefully
>soon. It's dye based ink, not sure how long prints will last, but at
>least they look great!! I forgot to mention you can use the grey
>cartridge on its own, but I have found that using it along side the
>tri-colour no 57 gives the prints a nice deep black and they have a
>richer appearance.
>
>My kids were asking me today "just how many printers do you actually
>need dad" (I've got 5 on the go) and I was thinking well maybe I
>could retire the 1160, but then what about A3...the quest for the
>right printer is never ending.
>
>Paul.
>
>
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