At 7:27 pm -0500 1/22/04, Bill Morse wrote: >I have heard, but cannot personally confirm, that PS as well as many >scanning programs over-emphasize the red channel over the green and >blue ones, supposedly to "better render" (read emphasize) Caucasian >skin tones. I seem to remember something like 50 red, 30 green, and >20 blue (don't quote me on these exactly! ;^) Bill -- As you've noted later in this thread you were referring to translating color scans to B&W using canned vs. custom conversions. However, I thought that comment on this might still be useful for people who are trying to produce optimal B&W portraiture from color scans. I suspect that you incorrectly remembered your ratios and that the numbers that Paul gives: At 4:44 pm -0800 1/22/04, Paul D. DeRocco wrote: >I tested it using a gamma=1 color space, and Image->Mode->Grayscale >weighs them 80, 160 and 15 (out of 255), so it's green that gets the >strongest emphasis. (which translate to approximately 31.37 red, 62.75 green, 5.88 blue) are more accurate. The reason I make this assertion is that it used to be so common as to be almost standard to use a green filter when doing B&W portraiture. (I'm sorry, but I do not remember the filter number; it was one of the standard Kodak filters.) I think that experimenting with a strong green channel is probably still the best idea when converting color portraiture to B&W. The green filter didn't so much "better render Caucasian skin tones" as provide a pleasing rendering of the skin tones while washing out pimples and blotchiness. For a more high-contrast look (pseudo Alfred Steiglitz?) I'd up the blue at the expense of (primarily) the red. Paul also said: >However, the default settings in Channel Mixer are 100,0,0, which I >suspect is to make blue skies dark. This would probably be a good starting point for translating color landscapes into striking B&W, but I think that it would be an absolute disaster if you had any Caucasians in the picture. It would probably be a bad idea when rendering almost any skin tone. Skin tones run a huge gamut, from the blue-black to the chocolate-brown, from the gold-tanned to the pinkish-red, from the stark-white to the neon-red and the purplish-red, from the sallow yellow to the neon bronze, to the many hues that are as far beyond dichotomy as they are from descriptive quantization. Nevertheless, if I might make a few over-generalizations, based on cultural generalities and meaning no offence to anyone: For Asians I would still leave the green predominate and play with the blue at the expense of both the red and the green. For Blacks I would watch what happens when starting from the same point and adding a healthy dose of the red channel while using the blue to trim the contrast. If the skin tone is very dark the blue channel might be used to significant effect. -=-Dennis .
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Re: [Digital BW] Scanning b&w negatives
2004-01-24 by Dennis W. Manasco
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