Paul - IP uses 'standard' ICC profiles. The profiles are done by Colorbyte, and are provided free to IP users. One could spend the money to have custom profiles made, but I've only heard of one or two people that thought the custom profiles were better. The point I was trying to make is that while IP produces b&w prints that are dead on neutral with the gray files and gray ICC paper profiles, it can not, as is the case with Epson as well, produce a neutral b&w print from an RGB profile that has been converted to have all of the R, G, and B values equal. In theory, this should be able to produce a neutral b&w print, but it doesn't happen. Once the same file is converted to a gray file (Gamma 2.2 would be typical, I believe) and printed with a gray paper profile, all is well. Tom Baker "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@...> wrote: > From: Tom Baker [mailto:tbaker1328@sbcglobal.net] > > PS is probably not the cause of the color cast. When Epson > drivers a passed a file with the RGB values all equal, it can't > produce a neutral print.For that matter, IP5.6 can't produce a > neutral print with an RGB file where the values are equal, and > the print is being made with a color profile. I've heard this > will change with IP6, but I haven't heard that from any > authority. (I'm talking about Ultrachrome inks.) I'm interested in this, because I'm considering getting a RIP. What do you mean by not being able to get a neutral print with a profile? Does IP not use a conventional ICC profile to translate Lab to whatever it needs internally? If not, does that mean that you have to use some built-in tool for "profiling", rather than some 3rd party product like ProfilerPro? -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paul mailto:pderocco@... Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Photoshop CS/B&W
2004-01-26 by Tom Baker
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