Paul, Why couldn't the mordant chemistry be incorporated in the receptor layers (coating) on matte papers? Mordents are the "glue" that binds the dye to a more or less specific target molecule and if gelatin (for example) was used in the coating it could provide a site for dye binding I would think. Maybe a type N surface might be possible and we could have something more akin to darkroom prints. It would be nice to have a dye based system without the clog problems that would open up other printer systems to the fine art market. To partially answer my own question, $$$ since the demand for such a system would be limited but maybe Kodak's present financial problems might make them open to licensing their patents. Tissue slides still have a significant fading problem with time, usually some years even with dark storage. It is a particular problem when slides are exposed to strong light, but then the chemistry is not designed to be "archival" and the tissue can usually be restained. Roger -----Original Message----- From: Paul Roark [mailto:paul.roark@...] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 1:18 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Kokak's latest ink jet paper Tom, >Can all of this happen with dye and still preserve the color advantage dye >has over pigs in terms of vibrancy, saturation, etc.? I don't know, but it suspect it can. All the surface artifacts of the pigments are avoided also. Look at the pains Epson is going to in the R800 order to hide the differential gloss. By their nature, the pigs are going to sit on top of the paper. Dyes can go into the emulsion while they are still liquid. Of course, what the Kodak advance can't do is give us a dye that can last on cotton paper. Perhaps this will help the "fine art" and "color glossy photos" markets diverge. This could be good. Paul www.PaulRoark.com ____________________________________ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: [Digital BW] Kodak's latest ink jet paper
2004-01-30 by Roger L Sopher
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