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Re: [Digital BW] Message for Paul Roark--standards

2001-10-14 by Robert Morrison

Paul,

Is there any way that you could get a silver print of a test wedge and fade
it side by side with a piezo or MIS test wedge that you consider to be the
most stable combination?  That seems like the only way we are going to get
the data that we need.  I've thought about doing it for a while...but your
light/scanning system is better than what I have access to.  Ink jet to ink
jet comparisons are useful...but I really think we need to know where we
stand relative to the industry standard (that is...if there is one).

Robert

On 10/13/01 9:23 PM, "Mark Tucker" <mark@...> wrote:

> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Steadman Uhlich"
> <steadmanuhlich@k...> wrote:
>>   I cannot think of a better way to "warranty" the image/print than
> to offer to replace it if needed.  That is standing behind your work.
> I see nothing "cheap suit" about that.
> 
> 
> Steadman,
> 
> Just to be clear, I would certainly make another print for
> someone if their print faded. No question about that. That would
> be automatic.
> 
> But my point was that it just seems so shaky to sell someone a
> print that you know is "iffy" right out of the gate. Even when a
> used car salesman tells me that a car will probably need brakes
> soon, I'm still a bit miffed when they go out so quickly. And even if
> he fixed the brakes for free, I've still gotta carry the car back over
> to him, wait around, yada yada.
> 
> I agree with most people who've responded that it's not perfect
> now, nor will it probably be perfect in the near future. All I'm trying
> to do is find the VERY best solution that exists today, and to try to
> have some hard evidence to back up my decision. And then to
> pick that and get to work.
> 
> In addition, until I get some degree of certainty about about a
> lifespan of these prints, the prices I charge for these will remain
> very low. I just couldn't feel good about putting this type of print
> alongside an archivally-processed B/W silver print.
> 
> I'm sorry if I've belabored this point. I assume that Martin's
> comment in Message 4152 is directed toward me. If so, I'll be on
> my way. I'm just shocked that more people aren't concerned with
> this issue. It's one of the main reasons that inkjet prints can get
> NO respect in the gallery world. I personally think there's a good
> bit of "The Emperor's Clothes" going on with inkjet; everybody's
> just printing away, thinking everything's fine and good, but
> nobody knows FOR SURE about the behavior of their materials,
> and the town's citizens snicker a bit when they walk by the
> window of the inkjet print shop. Conversation overheard on the
> sidewalk: "Are you in line to buy a print?" "No, I'm
> in the line to have mine remade..."
> 
> 
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