Digital BW, The Print

The wheels on a 2200 can be removed or pushed out of the way using a 
cut up credit card. I did see someone recently selling such a piece 
of plastic, I think it may be MIS. This will eliminate wheel marks.
How do I get some sample paper?
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DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "slightlyoutoffocus" 
<by_design@y...> wrote:
> That's wonderful news, Keith.  I intend to try it with my 1270.
> You mentioned that the glossy paper will not work on the 2200 
because 
> of the pizza wheels.  Have you actually tried this?  I love my 2200 
> and would like to make better glossy prints with it.  Thanks!
> 
> Kiefer Elliott
> Vancouver, Canada
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Editor P.O.V. 
> Image Service" <editor@p...> wrote:
> > 
> > A few days back I got some samples of Lyson's new "Archival 
Quality 
> > Premium Matte" and "Archival Quality Premium Glossy" papers.
> > 
> > These papers are reportedly an entirely in-house development by 
> Lyson, 
> > with production, of course, outsourced to a European manufacturer.
> > 
> > I've tried so many papers that I'm more than a bit skeptical when 
> stuff 
> > like this comes in the door these days.. It's generally 
> like "aggh!! 
> > another paper?!!" I did however test these papers with both 
> pigments and 
> > dyes on Canon S9000s, EPSON 1280s, and EPSON 1270s.
> > 
> > First, the heft of both papers is considerable.  Their physical 
> feel and 
> > stiffness are wholly reminiscent of matte and gloss traditional 
FB 
> > papers. However, they fed flawlessly through all the machines.
> > 
> > I printed 21 step wedges on both media and love the results with 
> EVERY 
> > ink I tried.
> > 
> > Blacks are deep, rich, and transitions are smooth without 
tweaking 
> > default output.
> > 
> > All that would be good news already, but I've always had problems 
> with 
> > any glossy paper holding the pigment when using the MIS VM-S inks 
> with 
> > warm toned curves  - ruboff has always been a huge problem - 
> solvable by 
> > spraying but I don't like spraying every print. So, I wondered 
how 
> well 
> > this new Lyson glossy media would hold the pigments (heresy of 
> heresies 
> > I know.. but I was curious).  Well, I'll say I'm dumbfounded.. 
not 
> > simply impressed.  On every other glossy paper I've used, the VM-
S 
> inks 
> > rubbed off.  But, on the Lyson Archival Quality Glossy media.... 
> well, 
> > let me give some detail..
> > 
> > Immediately after printing there was no bronzing, but pigments 
did 
> > ruboff somewhat, so I was resigned to another failure.  I still 
> decided 
> > to wait a day, hoping that results might be different after 
> drydown, 
> > letting the print cure.  Twenty-four hours later I checked 
again.. 
> The 
> > high ink load areas felt different from from other areas, by 
> different, 
> > I don't mean raised or that annoying embossed feel of some 
> swellable 
> > polymer papers, the paper felt slightly tack to the touch when 
> compared 
> > to areas with low or no ink load.  However, there was no rub-off! 
> NONE!  
> > and no bronzing!  The tackiness still annoyed me, so I waited a 
bit 
> > more.. At the two day point the tackiness is negligible and 
clearly 
> > decreasing with time. 
> > 
> > Most importantly to me.  The finished prints look and feel as 
much 
> like 
> > traditional FB prints (glossy and matte) as anything I've tried.
> > 
> > I can't give you dMax numbers as I don't have a densitomer (yet), 
> but 
> > these papers are the best new media I have seen in some time.  
I'll 
> try 
> > them with my UT 2 inks next, but given the results with the VM-S 
> they 
> > should shine with the UT 2 inkset.
> > 
> > These papers seem to be a multi-layer hybrid of some type, given 
> the 
> > differentials I am seeing over time and the tackiness in high ink 
> load 
> > areas etc.
> > 
> > Now for the bad news.
> > 
> > 1)   The glossy paper should NOT be used in the 2200 - 
> the "heavier" 
> > pizza wheels in that machine (and others with a similar setup) 
WILL 
> > leave tracks.
> > 
> > 2)   For now, the papers are only available in A4 and A3 sizes... 
> Lyson 
> > USA hopes to be able to supply these papers in sizes up to 13x19 
> soon.
> > 
> > I CAN say though, that I've found new papers of choice for 
> headshots, 
> > retouching, and other letter sized and A3 output..
> > 
> > I'll try and get Paul some samples to test for dMax and in his 
fade 
> chamber.
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > Keith Krebs
> > 
> > "Just some guy," caretaker of the Multiverse's largest EPSON 
> printer 
> > User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo 
> > Publications), at:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSON_Printers/
> > and  the Multiverse's largest Canon printer User  Community at:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Canon-printers
> > "For the rest of you out there, the secret is to bang the rocks 
> together 
> > guys"
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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