Digital BW, The Print

Robert,

You would probably need to do this using a Stauffer negative wedge to 
contact print onto MATTE silver paper. Then scan the wedge and make 
inkjet prints so that the inkjet Dmax was close to one of the steps 
on the silver print.

I have a feeling that you would not see any fading in the silver 
print during the 300 hours that Paul runs his tests.

Martin

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Robert Morrison 
<rmorrison@p...> wrote:
> Paul,
> 
> Is there any way that you could get a silver print of a test wedge 
and fade
> it side by side with a piezo or MIS test wedge that you consider to 
be the
> most stable combination?  That seems like the only way we are going 
to get
> the data that we need.  I've thought about doing it for a 
while...but your
> light/scanning system is better than what I have access to.  Ink 
jet to ink
> jet comparisons are useful...but I really think we need to know 
where we
> stand relative to the industry standard (that is...if there is one).
> 
> Robert
> 
> On 10/13/01 9:23 PM, "Mark Tucker" <mark@m...> wrote:
> 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Steadman Uhlich"
> > <steadmanuhlich@k...> wrote:
> >>   I cannot think of a better way to "warranty" the image/print 
than
> > to offer to replace it if needed.  That is standing behind your 
work.
> > I see nothing "cheap suit" about that.
> > 
> > 
> > Steadman,
> > 
> > Just to be clear, I would certainly make another print for
> > someone if their print faded. No question about that. That would
> > be automatic.
> > 
> > But my point was that it just seems so shaky to sell someone a
> > print that you know is "iffy" right out of the gate. Even when a
> > used car salesman tells me that a car will probably need brakes
> > soon, I'm still a bit miffed when they go out so quickly. And 
even if
> > he fixed the brakes for free, I've still gotta carry the car back 
over
> > to him, wait around, yada yada.
> > 
> > I agree with most people who've responded that it's not perfect
> > now, nor will it probably be perfect in the near future. All I'm 
trying
> > to do is find the VERY best solution that exists today, and to 
try to
> > have some hard evidence to back up my decision. And then to
> > pick that and get to work.
> > 
> > In addition, until I get some degree of certainty about about a
> > lifespan of these prints, the prices I charge for these will 
remain
> > very low. I just couldn't feel good about putting this type of 
print
> > alongside an archivally-processed B/W silver print.
> > 
> > I'm sorry if I've belabored this point. I assume that Martin's
> > comment in Message 4152 is directed toward me. If so, I'll be on
> > my way. I'm just shocked that more people aren't concerned with
> > this issue. It's one of the main reasons that inkjet prints can 
get
> > NO respect in the gallery world. I personally think there's a good
> > bit of "The Emperor's Clothes" going on with inkjet; everybody's
> > just printing away, thinking everything's fine and good, but
> > nobody knows FOR SURE about the behavior of their materials,
> > and the town's citizens snicker a bit when they walk by the
> > window of the inkjet print shop. Conversation overheard on the
> > sidewalk: "Are you in line to buy a print?" "No, I'm
> > in the line to have mine remade..."
> > 
> > 
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