Digital BW, The Print

Hello fellow photographers,

This note comes on a happier note than the other I posted. I found a 
solution to the middle tone crisis I found myself in. Instead of 
assigning the MODE of Gray Gamma 1.8, I used 20% dot gain. I did use 
the proof of Epson Heavyweight matte (piezo's ICC profile), and 
making the print options I chose custom and assigned the paper as 
Epson heavyweight matte where Piezo ICC had chosen Ink jet photo 
quality paper. I also gave it the print space the same as the proof 
profile of Piezo's ICC.I can't explain why it works, but the image 
looks good. This time I used an image rather than the grayscale. The 
image has a full range and I can relate to that better. I just went 
back and printed the same image using PiezoBW ICC settings and got 
different results, with the middle tones being alike thus making the 
image look posterized in those areas containing the middle tones. I 
can't explain it either!!! The only drawback now is that I've used 
upfrom 33% to 56% of my inkset and don't feel I can justify buying 
more of this ink, so I guess it's back to BO till I can save up some 
money for the Piexo inks or maybe MIS will make some. I sent them a 
note asking that and they said they were in the works but no timeline 
for release yet. Their inks are more in line with my budges of $0.00 
than Piezo of $84.00 for the two carts for my printer. Just wanted to 
touch base and let you all know that some procedures just aren't 
carved in stone and a lot of ezperimentation may re needed to get 
passable results. All I can say is I sure am glad I don't do this for 
a living. I'd starve to death before I let one print go out the door. 
Maybe I'm my own worst critic.

Your less frustrated friend in Photography.

Johnny Eades



-- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, hogarth 
<hogarth@s...> wrote:
> The problem, I'm betting, is printer-to-printer variation. Some 
printers
> are going to do better than others for a fixed ICC curve that only 
truly
> matches the printer that Cone profiled. The problem is that there 
is no
> decent way to linearize the individual printers with his system.
> 
> To fix this, Cone is going to have to release a number of ICC 
profiles
> for the same printer model and create a procedure that lets the user
> pick the best profile for her individual printer. Sounds like a
> nightmare in the making to me.
> 
> It's the only thing I can think of that explains the problems that 
Cone
> is having getting the ICC profiles to work with 1280s, and 1160s. I 
am
> surely glad that I went the StudioPrint route and avoided all this 
mess.
> Piezotones with StudioPrint and an Epson 7600 are just amazingly 
good.
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 15:45, smthopr2000 wrote:
> 
> > I had a similar problem when I used the plug-in. Very frustrating.
> > 
> > I have switched to using Quadtone RIP and this has fixed the 
problem. And I can 
> > make and adjust my own curves (through trial and error). Quadtone 
RIP works with 
> > mac system X only (and Linux?).
> > 
> > I would be gettin pretty angry with Inkjet Mall if they aren't 
helping you to fix the 
> > problem. They should be.
> > 
> > It is possible that you have a decfective cartridge with the same 
ink in two positions. 
> > Does Inkjetmall have a test file that you can print to determine 
that?
> > 
> > -bruce
> > 
> > 
> > > > Sierra Gold
> > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Johnny 
Eades" 
> > > > <jeades1@s...> wrote:
> > > > > I print a 21 step grayscale according to the instructions 
with 
> > > > > PiezoBW ICC manual and the middle section is the same shade 
from 
> > > > 40% 
> > > > > to 60%. No matter how I adjust it, the same results happen. 
This 
> > > is 
> > > > > being printed from the Piezotone warm neutral cartridges 
with 
> > > > Museum 
> > > > > Black. Has anyone else had this same problem. > > > Your 
frustrated friend in 
> > photography,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Johnny Eades
> 
> 
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