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[Digital BW] Re: PIEZOGRAPHY bw icc GRAYSCALE

2004-03-03 by Johnny Eades

Hello Don,

I'm using the 1280 too but use WinXP and Photoshop CS. I have played 
for a couple of years with Linux, but always seem to come back to XP 
because most of the programs I use daily are there. The workaround 
turned out to be very good and I wish I could afford the Piezotone 
inks. I had the plugin for PiezoBW and used MIS full Spectrum 
i\Neutral inks with it and it looked pretty good to. I guess I'm jus 
an experimenter at heart, and I wish my pockets were deep enough to 
pursue each one further. I use Black Only printing with MIS Eboni ink 
and can make it jump through hoops. I now can get true WYSIWYG prints 
with it. I'm very critical of the lower values in my images. I want 
them to have pregnant shadows like Ansel Adams' images. I can wish 
can't I? Don't we all? Well when my ink runs out I may try the UT2 
and Paul's curves. 

Your friend in Photography,

Johnny Eades



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "D. Hill" 
<hill14701@y...> wrote:
> Johnny,
> 
> It is too bad that your ICC piezo system requires
> workarounds instead of working correctly out of the
> box.  One only has to peruse the piezography 3000 list
> to see the problems inherent in the current system.
> 
> I can't remember if you are using a 1280 - but if you
> are in addition to using a Mac running OSX Panther;
> the ICC Piezography isn't a strong choice right now -
> plus the fact that you've lost so much trying to get
> it right.
> 
> I considered purchasing the ICC system, as I found the
> R9 driver to be superb.  However, as I am running
> panther with a 1280 - it really needs to work
> correctly without workarounds when purchased to
> warrant the high cost of ownership.
> 
> In the interim, I have found that the 1280 and UT2 is
> superior to any other current B&W solution.  Comparing
> the dither of QTR against the R9/Piezography driver, I
> found QTR to be superior in all respects as far as
> smooth tones and "dotlessness". 
> 
> If you are running a mac and need your system to work,
> consider using QTR and UT2.  Just as simple as BO, and
> the results are stunning.  The flexibility of the
> tones as well as the superior dither amount to an
> amazing solution.
> 
> Don
> 
> --- Johnny Eades <jeades1@s...> wrote:
> > Hello fellow photographers,
> > 
> > This note comes on a happier note than the other I
> > posted. I found a 
> > solution to the middle tone crisis I found myself
> > in. Instead of 
> > assigning the MODE of Gray Gamma 1.8, I used 20% dot
> > gain. I did use 
> > the proof of Epson Heavyweight matte (piezo's ICC
> > profile), and 
> > making the print options I chose custom and assigned
> > the paper as 
> > Epson heavyweight matte where Piezo ICC had chosen
> > Ink jet photo 
> > quality paper. I also gave it the print space the
> > same as the proof 
> > profile of Piezo's ICC.I can't explain why it works,
> > but the image 
> > looks good. This time I used an image rather than
> > the grayscale. The 
> > image has a full range and I can relate to that
> > better. I just went 
> > back and printed the same image using PiezoBW ICC
> > settings and got 
> > different results, with the middle tones being alike
> > thus making the 
> > image look posterized in those areas containing the
> > middle tones. I 
> > can't explain it either!!! The only drawback now is
> > that I've used 
> > upfrom 33% to 56% of my inkset and don't feel I can
> > justify buying 
> > more of this ink, so I guess it's back to BO till I
> > can save up some 
> > money for the Piexo inks or maybe MIS will make
> > some. I sent them a 
> > note asking that and they said they were in the
> > works but no timeline 
> > for release yet. Their inks are more in line with my
> > budges of $0.00 
> > than Piezo of $84.00 for the two carts for my
> > printer. Just wanted to 
> > touch base and let you all know that some procedures
> > just aren't 
> > carved in stone and a lot of ezperimentation may re
> > needed to get 
> > passable results. All I can say is I sure am glad I
> > don't do this for 
> > a living. I'd starve to death before I let one print
> > go out the door. 
> > Maybe I'm my own worst critic.
> > 
> > Your less frustrated friend in Photography.
> > 
> > Johnny Eades
> 
> 
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